But if we just open up, the problem is hospitals will be full. We have to have more hospital beds then.
DeSantis for the win
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But if we just open up, the problem is hospitals will be full. We have to have more hospital beds then.
And that has exactly what to do with anything other than you being a creep who got crushed by facts?
Again, that depends. If the reason hospitals are so full is because they're full of patients who held off elective surgery for so long and finally went through with it (knee replacements, etc) then the way you get more beds is to suspend elective surgery. But you can only suspend this for so long. Eventually people NEED the surgery (unless it is cosmetic) and the hospitals NEED the income or they go bankrupt.
The data I have been posting for Florida (and some for Texas) is showing the majority of the beds taken up by NON COVID patients. That means this is probably a big part of the bed "shortage".
And by the way, even if you cured the virus tomorrow, having people hold off elective surgery for a few more months - eventually they need to get the stuff done. So you're essentially talking about rationed healthcare now. Isn't that interesting. Might as well be single payer!
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Elective surgery does not fill up ICUs. The ICUs at 58 hospitals in Florida are at maximum capacity. DeSantis still is not reporting how many of these ICU beds are filled with COVID patients despite promising last week to do so. I expect nearly 100% of these ICU beds are filled with COVID patients.
Moms everywhere are talking about that. I was just dosed with those fears last week at soccer practice.
I said was I happy that our kids were not wearing masks and sucking in fibers and bacteria and that I was a happy the school board might not require masks in the fall.
I broke the damn. parents went off. some fearing Covid and their kids bringing it home to them....
some saying this shut down made children depressed and suicidal and we have to let them learn as they used to. They had horrific stories about friend's kids.
I had no idea so many kids are seen as at risk by parents.
I said was I happy that our kids were not wearing masks and sucking in fibers and bacteria and that I was a happy the school board might not require masks in the fall.
I broke the damn. parents went off. some fearing Covid and their kids bringing it home to them....
some saying this shut down made children depressed and suicidal and we have to let them learn as they used to. They had horrific stories about friend's kids.
I had no idea so many kids are seen as at risk by parents.
I don't really care what you think, gwb. You've shown yourself not to be an honest debater in this thread, and frankly, on this entire topic. For example, you're saying that elective surgery doesn't fill up ICU beds. Well, no one said it did. We were talking about ALL hospital beds.
Here is Florida's ICU Headroom. You will, of course, note that 57% of the ICU beds are being occupied by non-Covid patients. Here is the source.
It is probably true that there are some hospitals that have all ICU beds used up. Some only have 7 ICU beds (some in W. Palm Beach for example). So I'm not surprised that all the beds are occupied. Moving a patient to a hospital with more capacity isn't unheard of.
Amazed you had soccer practice. They canceled all sports around here. My kid has been sitting on his ass all day. I've had to put a physical regimen in for him every day, which he hates.
This is going to have long lasting and serious impacts to our kids. And it didn't have to be this way.
Kids were already sedentary as hell. I grew up outside, like nearly every waking moment.
It worries me.
Technology bruh.