DeSantis for the win

[Nine_Ender]

I'm not saying it is a downtrend. I'm saying why DeSantis might have said it. In fact, I specifically say it might be too early to say anything about that.

Bottom line Florida is a mess by any definition, and fixing the problem requires decisive correct actions NOW not politics and debate. I asked two months ago why Canada's numbers were so much better then US numbers. It's gotten worse since. Yesterday, 1100 Americans died from Covid and in Canada 4. My opinion, there were lessons to be learned from Canada and some other American states two months ago that could have greatly reduced your current numbers. What I see now is surely but surely Americans are coming around to those realities. It's 6-7 weeks late imo but better late then never.

Disparities like 1100 to 4 ( or 36 prorated by population ) are very significant.

 

[Tsing Tao]

A person who tests positive is counted only once, but negative tests can be counted repeatedly if the same person got more than one test.

This is the way it is in many states. It's not a Florida thing. Feel free to google it. Its all over the place this way. What is unique to Florida was that labs were reporting 100% positive tests, as I detailed with actual data and underlying proof/backup (you were silent on this as well - probably googling articles)

 

[Tsing Tao]

Bottom line Florida is a mess by any definition, and fixing the problem requires decisive correct actions NOW not politics and debate. I asked two months ago why Canada's numbers were so much better then US numbers. It's gotten worse since. Yesterday, 1100 Americans died from Covid and in Canada 4. My opinion, there were lessons to be learned from Canada and some other American states two months ago that could have greatly reduced your current numbers. What I see now is surely but surely Americans are coming around to those realities. It's 6-7 weeks late imo but better late then never.

Disparities like 1100 to 4 ( or 36 prorated by population ) are very significant.

Many states are a mess. The whole data reporting aspect of this pandemic is completely screwed. The real bottom line is that this isn't a DeSantis problem. Its a problem systemically with US Data reporting. Probably in other countries as well.

 

[gwb-trading]

This is supposed to be "news".

Many of those tiny hospitals showing 0% Capacity don't have any ICU Beds to Begin with!!!

Moron.

Go click on the ACHA link provided in the bullet point - https://bi.ahca.myflorida.com/t/ABICC/views/Public/ICUBedsHospital?:showAppBanner=false&:display_count=n&:showVizHome=n&rigin=viz_share_link&:isGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y&:embed=y

They only show hospitals that have ICU beds with a percentage number showing available ICU beds.
If the hospital does not have ICU beds to start with then no value is entered in the percentage of ICU beds available column.

It's incredible where you dream up your "facts" from -- including this fantasy that "0% capacity don't have ICU Beds to Begin with".

You claimed...

I always admit when I made an error. Have done so many times on this forum.

Time to start admitting your errors now.

 

[gwb-trading]

Without spending hours going through all your spam, you claim that there is "irrefutable proof" in this article. Lets start with one claim. Which claim shows that DeSantis intentionally manipulated data? One claim, gwb. That's all. Show me one example where data was manipulated. SPECIFICALLY. Don't just spam links. Try to actually do some work.

Why don't you read the article and the links for a change.

To every rational person at this point it has become clear that the DeSantis administration has been hiding and manipulating COVID-19 data.

He has also been hiding no-bid COVID contracts to felons and political donors.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Updated as of today. The number of deaths in Florida this year on trend with last three years, and below the 2017/2018 flu season.

Total deaths, all causes. Florida is just fine folks. But keep the fear porn coming. This chart will be the one we continue to use to tell the story.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Go click on the ACHA link provided in the bullet point - https://bi.ahca.myflorida.com/t/ABICC/views/Public/ICUBedsHospital?:showAppBanner=false&:display_count=n&:showVizHome=n&rigin=viz_share_link&:isGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y&:embed=y

They only show hospitals that have ICU beds with a percentage number showing available ICU beds.
If the hospital does not have ICU beds to start with then no value is entered in the percentage of ICU beds available column.

It's incredible where you dream up your "facts" from -- including this fantasy that "0% capacity don't have ICU Beds to Begin with".

You claimed...

Time to start admitting your errors now.

First, I admit my errors when they occur. Of the two of us, you are the only one who never says you were mistaken. This thread is proof of that. When you verify your data was correct, trumpet to the world. Find out you were mistaken, silent as a fart in the night.

Now, if you're saying the article is counting only those that have beds and no availability, then that was my misunderstanding. I thought they were adding up all those that had no beds in this list.

But, seeing as we're looking at this source now, can you explain how these things can happen? I'm genuinely curious:

4 of 4 beds are used, 50% availability.

8 of 5 beds being used. ??? 61.54% capacity?

3 of 6 beds being used, only 33% capacity. And on and on and on.

Any idea?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Updated as of today. The number of deaths in Florida this year on trend with last three years, and below the 2017/2018 flu season.

Total deaths, all causes. Florida is just fine folks. But keep the fear porn coming. This chart will be the one we continue to use to tell the story.

Sorry, chart.

 

[gwb-trading]

First, I admit my errors when they occur. Of the two of us, you are the only one who never says you were mistaken. This thread is proof of that. When you verify your data was correct, trumpet to the world. Find out you were mistaken, silent as a fart in the night.

Now, if you're saying the article is counting only those that have beds and no availability, then that was my misunderstanding. I thought they were adding up all those that had no beds in this list.

But, seeing as we're looking at this source now, can you explain how these things can happen? I'm genuinely curious:

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4 of 4 beds are used, 50% availability.

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8 of 5 beds being used. ??? 61.54% capacity?

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3 of 6 beds being used, only 33% capacity.

Any idea?

I will admit I cannot explain the examples you provided above. Simply put the figures don't make sense.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I will admit I cannot explain the examples you provided above. Simply put the figures don't make sense.

Then it is difficult to use this as a source for anything if that is the case. I don't know what alternative exists, but one would be forgiven to consider all data suspect.

Additionally, I downloaded the data into excel and the numbers are different. There are 41 hospitals showing 0%, not 53. Not that 41 is a good number, but it is not the number being reported, and there are 12 that have no beds at all, and they ARE being counted. So I was correct. They were counting hospitals with no beds.

Download the data and see for yourself.