Derek Chauvin jury reaches verdict in George Floyd case

[TreeFrogTrader]

This was my first post to you:

So the decision of a fair trial was already addressed pre-trial for the most part.

I could write it in crayon for you if not direct enough.

Correct. You stated that that is where pretrial issues are addressed. But did not state whether that was included in the requests for pretrial consideration. Then tried to mop up your shit answer by saying it definitely would have been in such a trial.

Anyway, for obvious reasons, the law is not your bag.

Carry on.

 

[El OchoCinco]

https://www.king5.com/article/news/...ible/536-cf9ee81f-f3f6-4621-ac60-7ed2277c9754

If Chauvin is convicted of any of the charges against him, he’ll likely serve multiple years in prison. The Minnesota sentencing guidelines for each of his two murder charges are 12.5 years and for his manslaughter charge are four years. He’ll only serve time for his most serious charge if he’s found guilty of all charges, although the prosecution plans to ask the judge for a longer sentence than the recommended 12.5 years.

12.5 years for first time offender but prosecution can ask for longer sentence due to aggravated factors. That is why sentencing is in 8 weeks. Motions will be presented to the judge who will decide. Juries can sometimes be asked to decide on aggravating factors but the defense waived that and the judge will make the sole decision.

So the judge can increase the prison term up to the max (highly unlikely).

the more I think about it... I can see the judge landing in the 10-15 years and not taking in the aggravating factors.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Correct. You stated that that is where pretrial issues are addressed. But did not state whether that was included in the requests for pretrial consideration. Then tried to mop up your shit answer by saying it definitely would have been in such a trial.

Anyway, for obvious reasons, the law is not your bag.

Carry on.

ok boomer you are the one who asked the question about why they didn't ask to move the venue...and then maybe a 5 second google search found your answer..

you got schooled 4x but I am ready for the fifth if you keep digging the hole...

Notice how no one else rushing to defend you here haha....

CASE CLOSED.

 

[Ricter]

the more I think about it... I can see the judge landing in the 10-15 years and not taking in the aggravating factors.

I'd add a couple years for the aggravating factor of Chauvin's grin. I've seen that grin before in the dojo, it's pride.

 

[El OchoCinco]

I'd add a couple years for the aggravating factor of Chauvin's grin. I've seen that grin before in the dojo, it's pride.

There is actually an aggravated factor if there are children present in MINN (just saw that). Not sure what that adds but there were children present at the scene so who knows how the judge will view that.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

you are the one who asked the question about why they didn't ask to move the venue...

Heh, another clear example of your having no ability to follow a question which obviously limited your legal career.

Here is what I said:

"Did they ask for a change of venue in this case?"

"I presume that they made the request just to have it on the record for appeal."

And you interpret that as my "asking why they did not not."

Looks to me a lot like I asked rather than stated that they did not as you allege. Your are too busy rolling the marbles on to the table. Learn to focus.

And yes, you are correct. I did a five second google search which answered what you could not. If your argument is that I should not waste my time by asking you anything, I accept that as being true.

CASE CLOSED.

Not really though. If you are still breathing you have more marbles to roll and they might have something to do with whatever the voices in your Rice Krispies are talking to you about.

 

[userque]

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/too-many-threads.356218/

They are professional hypocrites.

 

[notagain]

training for the chain gang

 

[kmgilroy89]

There is actually an aggravated factor if there are children present in MINN (just saw that). Not sure what that adds but there were children present at the scene so who knows how the judge will view that.

Probably not a whole lot. In my opinion it doesn’t seem very relevant as to whether or not they should add on years in this particular case. It might matter more if a father was abusing their mother in front of the children or something like that. A bigger factor is his position of authority. Isn’t that one?

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Dershowitz: Derek Chauvin Conviction Should Be Reversed on Appeal
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/202...onviction-should-be-reversed-on-appeal-biden/
What was done to George Floyd by Officer Chauvin was inexcusable, morally. But the verdict is very questionable, because of the outside influences of people like Al Sharpton, and people like Maxine Waters. Their threats and intimidation, and hanging the sword of Damocles over the jury, and basically saying if you don’t convict on the murder charge, on all the charges, the cities will burn, the country will be destroyed, seeped into the jury room because the judge made a terrible mistake by not sequestering the jury. So the judge himself said, this case may be reversed on appeal. And I think it might reversed on appeal. I think it should be reversed on appeal.
So I have no real confidence that this verdict — which may be correct in some ways — but I have no confidence that this verdict was produced by due process and the rule of law, rather than the influence of the crowd.