Derek Chauvin jury reaches verdict in George Floyd case

[TreeFrogTrader]

Ok quiet down I answered your question. Pre trial motions address questions of unfair trial due to venue. Case closed.

Let me help you one more time as your struggle with the unfocused mind.

My question was: Did the defense ask for a change of venue?

Your rambling about voir dire and pretrial motions and jury nullification did not answer the question of whether a change of venue was requested. The fact that it would have been addressed in a pretrial motion does not in and of itself confirm that that or any other request was made, only that that is when it would have been addressed. But no, you have the marbles you want to roll out on to the table hoping that what you want to see contains an answer in there somewhere.

The answer to my question- based on my own search- is: YES. A change of venue was requested. Your view on it or when it was handled in the process and whether it would be jury nullification if granted, so on and so forth are neither here nor there. The answer is YES.

Try to process that: Yes. That is a complete answer.

 

[kmgilroy89]

My guess ... and it's just a guess, is that he'll get 15.5 years.

I kept seeing 12.5 years. I don't know about aggravating factors and how much the judge will ding him for that.

 

[El OchoCinco]

You won't do 40 years for 2nd degree murder, 25 years for 3rd degree murder, then 10 years for manslaughter, because the other two are part of crime 1. It would be different if he robbed a bank and killed somebody, because they are two unique events, robbery and murder. If you committed 2nd degree unintentional murder you pretty much committed 3rd degree murder and manslaughter as well on the same person.

I am just telling you what I am reading you about MINN law...

Are you giving me your opinion or factual legal analysis? If you are convicted of 3 crimes, all 3 sentences can be aggregated together for a combined sentence. Every state is a little different.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I see alleged domestic abuser and assaulter Keith Ellison babbling away on the tube but I have it on mute.

Homey don't have no time for that clown. He should be in prison.

 

[userque]

There is already a thread on this.

Link?

What to make sure I have it.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Police departments should be relieved that justice prevailed and bad cops were held accountable for unnecessary felony assaults.

It's breathtaking just how naive you are.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Let me help you one more time as your struggle with the unfocused mind.

My question was: Did the defense ask for a change of venue?

Your rambling about voir dire and pretrial motions and jury nullification did not answer the question of whether a change of venue was requested. The fact that it would have been addressed in a pretrial motion does not in and of itself confirm that that or any other request was made, only that that is when it would have been addressed. But no, you have the marbles you want to roll out on to the table hoping that what you want to see contains an answer in there somewhere.

The answer to my question- based on my own search- is: YES. A change of venue was requested. Your view on it or when it was handled in the process and whether it would be jury nullification if granted, so on and so forth are neither here nor there. The answer is YES.

Try to process that: Yes. That is a complete answer.

110% of the time a change of venue is requested in THESE public type of cases. I did not even have to google it.

Any defense lawyer worth his money will draw up an automatic change of venue motion due to inability to have a fair trial. They are probably pre-printed on the computer.

That is why I said 4x now it was dealt with in pre-trial motions.

 

[userque]

I kept seeing 12.5 years. I don't know about aggravating factors and how much the judge will ding him for that.

I'm thinking politics will come into play.

Giving him the bare minimum ... maybe not a good look. "I'll just add a year ... for each charge."

Is it confirmed that the Judge determines the sentence? I haven't looked it up.

 

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[kmgilroy89]

It's breathtaking just how naive you are.

Sadly, cops were very likely to be killed by revenge terrorists if this guy was acquitted. His conviction probably saved a cop's life today. I'm relieved for our streets tonight. There should be less rioting and more peaceful celebrating as a result.