depression

[newwurldmn]

Money keeps you isolated and drives away friends who used to be close to you. Money obscures the true nature of the relationship and gives you a false sense of security and affection from people that you think are drawn to you because of who you are but in fact were drawn to you because of your money. Money inflates or at least helps to inflate your sense of yourself to an unhealthy level that was not genuine. Money makes everything easy to fix when more real and arduous efforts are supposed to be spent to find the real solution and the root cause of the problem. Money makes you reckless and gives you a false sense of invincibility when you are just as vulnerable as the next guy/gal.

I can list many more ways where having money makes you worse than not. True in the end, it is you that really made those bad decisions that made your life worse but money is a very powerful enabler.

it doesn’t have to do any of that.

people who say money causes unhappiness are really saying “an external locus of control is causing their unhappiness”

Does owning a Ferrari, private jet, or a yacht cause unhappiness? Obviously not. Does it cause happiness? Often but definitely not always.

 

[Laissez Faire]

Thanks fellas. I got this . I've got some plans I could use a vacation I've been working very hard and have made so much progress i am thrilled about but I push myself too hard I'll give those ideas a try . Most psychiatrists just prescribe drugs and they themselves are nuts and putting on a show , because truly they don't how reality really is , the honest ones say that is the truth anyway

I agree with Maxinger. You're already showing progress in this thread.

Take control of the things in your life that you can control and start improving. Let go of that which you can't control.

Just a quick word on medication:

My doctor actually prescribed anti-depressants to me back in the day, but I never used it after doing some research and seeing how bad many people felt on it. Also, I knew the cause of my depression and knowing the cause I figured I could fix it naturally. And that I did, although it took me quite some time.

What I did use, though, was calming agents. Both over the counter and on prescription (easy to get addicted, so requires some discipline). This was because I knew the value of being able to get a great night of sleep at least once in a while and to calm down my body which often was in an agitated state during that period.

I'm no expert on anti-depressants or even depression. I think it's quite likely that some people need those drugs. But I'm 100 % convinced that way too many are put on those drugs who don't really need them and could get well through other means. Often it's just a band-aid approach without addressing the real problem.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

Ug, what are you on about?

The problems you have in life are generally a function of YOU. Not the amount of money you have.

 

[ElCubano]

does not having money make you unhappy? The way I see it is, happiness is like poker. You don’t always get pocket Aces or high starting hands. As a matter of fact you get them less than you do shitty hands. Y’all gotta play what cards they give you to the best of your ability.

if you are a miserable f&&k before coming into money chances are you will be a bigger miserable f&&k with lots of it.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

does not having money make you unhappy? The way I see it is, happiness is like poker. You don’t always get pocket Aces or high starting hands. As a matter of fact you get them less than you do shitty hands. Y’all gotta play what cards they give you to the best of your ability.

if you are a miserable f&&k before coming into money chances are you will be a bigger miserable f&&k with lots of it.

Exactly. Who you are with money is just an amplification of who you are without it.

Me... When I got big money, I was generous. This led to entitlement. This led to very bad outcomes.

So I learned that it's not just an amplification of who YOU are. It's an amplification of everyone around you.

 

[ElCubano]

Exactly. Who you are with money is just an amplification of who you are without it.

Me... When I got big money, I was generous. This led to entitlement. This led to very bad outcomes.

So I learned that it's not just an amplification of who YOU are. It's an amplification of everyone around you.

most of the lottery horror stories are from not knowing how to handle the friends around you etc.

 

[SimpleMeLike]

A close relationship you value breaks, it could be your partner, a family member or close friend, maybe it is your fault maybe its the other persons fault, how is your money going to fix that?

Good Morning Millionaire,

I have had close relationship I value end with a partner (girlfriend), family member or friend. We eventually work it out and be friends again. That is easy to problem solve without money. It just takes I am sorry, and a nice meal and we all good.

But I never mix money with girlfriend, family member or friend. I learn my lesson with that. If I do give money, I just give it and do not ask for repayment, but its been nearly 7 years since i gave out money. I do not do it anymore.

I like keeping things very simple.

 

[SimpleMeLike]

money isn’t the solution to everything but everything is easier to fix with money.

Take your first very generic example. Money buys you time to talk to that person.

In your second generic example, money can help you make the right lifestyle choices (like not own a house in a polluted neighborhood).

like having health, intelligence, or a strong family bond: there is no situation where having money makes you worse than not. And like all those other three, there is no situation where only having one of them is sufficient for a happy life.

Good Morning newwurldmn,

Thank you. Finally someone gets it.

Money solves ALLL problems within 24 hours. Why? Because if I have $X to $XX million dollars, I have 24 hours of free time to quickly fix all problems.

I live in America, and besides English, money is common language.

 

[SimpleMeLike]

most of the lottery horror stories are from not knowing how to handle the friends around you etc.

Good Morning ElCubano,

My grandfather always told me since day 1, "Boy, I have in this life for you, is a free plate of food, and some free advice"

I agree with you. The root cause for lots of millionaires money lost is 1. Family/Friends and 2. Bad decision making

The way to resolve that is by saying No. Yes, it is hard to do. I am going through that now and in the past with several family members and a girlfriend. I see it alot.

The problem I am seeing with people nowadays are in category 1 and 2:

Category 1. Everyone has a good business idea, and no money for start-up cost and want to borrow someone else money.

2. Everyone has a money problem and do not want to get a second job and work 16 hours a day 7 days a week to fix their money issue.

People in category 1 and 2 are going to people with money to resolve their issue asking for Money.

The solution: Tell them No and offer them free advice and free plate of food.

For me, that advice will still exist when I have $X-$XX Million dollars as well. I am not giving anyone anything. I will only donate to the dog shelters monthly.

 

[newwurldmn]

does not having money make you unhappy? The way I see it is, happiness is like poker. You don’t always get pocket Aces or high starting hands. As a matter of fact you get them less than you do shitty hands. Y’all gotta play what cards they give you to the best of your ability.

if you are a miserable f&&k before coming into money chances are you will be a bigger miserable f&&k with lots of it.

agreed. Happiness is a state of mind. It’s your response to your external surroundings. All money offers you is the ability to change your surroundings.

a wealthy Russian and a poor Russian: if happiness is eating a Big Mac, the wealthy Russian can fly to Turkey and have a Big Mac. The poor Russian can’t. If happiness is seeing Putin protect the world from nazis then both the wealthy and the poor Russian are happy despite their financial differences.