Deported Mexicans Vow To Flood Into Canada - Immigrating To "The U.S. Is Over,Now It's Canada's Tu

[gwb-trading]

Think about that for a second though, do you not think if they paid enough to Canadians, that Canadians would be willing to fill those jobs? Places like McDonalds are applying to get foreign workers into the country, do you think there is a lack of people qualified enough to flip a burger? Or is it just that they want to pay people as little as possible to flip the burger?

Isnt that just a way of keeping wages as low as possible cause no one in canada will work these jobs for 8 bucks an hour, or whatever minimum wage is now.

They dont need highly skilled people to drive trucks, work construction, work in the oil field or work on the farm, or flip burgers, they just need someone who is willing to do it for a shit wage. Do you not see the cynical side of this? and how it fucks people currently living in the country?

Now not only are the people who are capable of doing those jobs going to have more competition, the competition is also willing to work at a much lower wage, so how does bringing in people to do these shit jobs at a lower wage benefit Canadians?

I get the cynical side of this -- in that in some business sectors the companies are using the government to recruit cheap foreign labor.

I will note however that for the truck driving and oil field jobs most of the listed positions are filled with U.S. citizens who are earning pretty decent money. I don't see any sign of salary suppression in these particular jobs in Canada. The average truck driving salary in Canada in 2016 was $21 per hour or $49,000 per year. The average oil field worker salary in Canada in 2016 was well above $100,000.

 

[jj90]

@Max E. Pad I hear you, however as I have said it's not quite so simple. All these temp foreign workers are living here how on those wages?

Correct my math where wrong, but assume the breakeven for a living wage is 18K CAD/yr for example, making 15K/yr gets one most of the way there. There can be other jobs to fill in the gap. 100% of 0% is still 0. I think you get my point.

 

[Max E.]

I get the cynical side of this -- in that in some business sectors the companies are using the government to recruit cheap foreign labor.

I will note however that for the truck driving and oil field jobs most of the listed positions are filled with U.S. citizens who are earning pretty decent money. I don't see any sign of salary suppression in these particular jobs in Canada. The average truck driving salary in Canada in 2016 was $21 per hour or $49,000 per year. The average oil field worker salary in Canada in 2016 was well above $100,000.

I live in Saskatchewan currently so i got lots of buddies who are rig pigs, they drive to and from Alberta every month, while it pays well its a pretty terrible existence, 2-3 weeks living on the rig working 10-12 hours a day, 1 week off, 1 day of driving both ways if you dont live close to the rig, but if you do live close to the rig, housing in places like Fort McMurray is almost as expensive as vancouver, So you basically have a life for 5 days a month.

Most of them come back and blow all their money partying cause its the only time they get off, and one of my buddies even just blew his thumb off, so its high risk, back breaking labor, and a terrible life, thats the main reason no one wants to do it, but bottom line if you paid enough people would be willing to do it.

Same thing with Truck driving large part of your life spent on the road and the wages are even lower.

 

[Max E.]

@Max E. Pad I hear you, however as I have said it's not quite so simple. All these temp foreign workers are living here how on those wages?

Correct my math where wrong, but assume the breakeven for a living wage is 18K CAD/yr for example, making 15K/yr gets one most of the way there. There can be other jobs to fill in the gap. 100% of 0% is still 0. I think you get my point.

I get what your saying, but i think you are underestimating the cost of living especially in places like T.O. or Vancouver, i lived in T.O. while i was going to University, and i got lucky finding a place for a thousand bucks a month because i became friends with the woman, this included my food, and internet, i also needed 250 a month for insurance on my car cause i was young and had a bad driving record so i was considered high risk, I had to drive 20km(10 miles) every day to go to school, so basically my break even was about 1500 per month, and this was 20 years ago, before housing prices basically doubled.

I was making close to 40k per year in toronto while i was in university running a dump truck where i had an ad in the newspaper and i would haul shit to the dump for people, but on 40k per year i was broke all the time. (although i did spend alot of money partying and going to clubs back then )

In places like Vancouver or Toronto i think the breakeven point where you have zero leisure money is probably 30k a year if not more and thats living in a rat infested shit hole, unless you put 5 people in an apartment to split the rent.

So places like McDicks that pay minimum wage literally pay about half the amount a person needs just to live.

 

[jj90]

@Max E. Pad I think you are saying 1 thing while the reality is another. I believe you are saying MCD doesn't pay enough to justify a livable wage as a career.

Well, it doesn't. But yet all those TFW somehow make ends meet. Maybe they have 2 jobs, or something else on the side. And/or they have 5 roomies.

Most people do eventually aim higher than MCD's as a career. However for a lot of Canadians or 1st worlders, dignity is a privilege not a luxury.

 

[gwb-trading]

Canadian border authorities detaining record number of Mexicans
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-immigration-mexicans-exclusive-idUSKBN16O2W3

Canada's border authorities detained more Mexicans in the first 67 days of 2017 than they did annually in any of the three previous years, according to statistics obtained by Reuters.

The spike comes immediately after Canada's federal government lifted its visa requirement for Mexican citizens in December.

Many Mexicans looking north have shifted their focus from the United States to Canada as President Donald Trump vows to crack down on America's undocumented immigrants, about half of whom are Mexican. On Friday, Reuters reported, immigration judges were reassigned to 12 U.S. cities to speed up deportation.

The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) said it detained 444 Mexican nationals between Jan. 1 and March 8, compared with 410 for all of 2016, 351 for 2015, and 399 for 2014.

The CBSA can detain foreign nationals if it is believed they pose a danger to the public, if their identity is unclear or if they are deemed unlikely to appear for removal or for a proceeding.

The number of Mexicans turned back at the airport has risen, too - to 313 in January, more than any January since 2012 and more than the annual totals for 2012, 2013 and 2014.

With the visa requirement lifted, all that Mexicans need to come to Canada is an Electronic Travel Authorization (eTA), obtainable online in a matter of minutes. But they cannot work without a work permit, and the eTA does not guarantee entry.

Canada issued 72,450 travel authorizations to Mexican citizens between Dec. 1, 2016, and March 10, 2017 - a significant increase compared with a similar period when visas were required.

Canada's Immigration and Refugee Minister Ahmed Hussen has said his department is monitoring the situation.

"It would be premature to draw conclusions or to speculate on future policy at this point," Hussen's spokeswoman, Camielle Edwards, wrote in an email Friday evening.

 

[Max E.]

Yeah i agree with you there, I dont think that McDicks should be a livable career, it used to be a stepping stone for highschool kids like me to get their first job, but now the only way they can keep driving down wages is by bringing in people who do in fact make it a living career, i.e. flooding the market with low skilled immigrants. Then we as tax payers just end up paying for them.

@Max E. Pad I think you are saying 1 thing while the reality is another. I believe you are saying MCD doesn't pay enough to justify a livable wage as a career.

Well, it doesn't. But yet all those TFW somehow make ends meet. Maybe they have 2 jobs, or something else on the side. And/or they have 5 roomies.

Most people do eventually aim higher than MCD's as a career. However for a lot of Canadians or 1st worlders, dignity is a privilege not a luxury.

 

[Max E.]

Yeah, i find it somewhat Ironic that Canadian towns on the border are now requesting government assistance, after many Canadians dismissed the U.S. racist because people want to put a stop to illegal immigration.

One of those situations where its alot easier to judge people until the problem arrives on your doorstep.

A small southern Manitoba town within sight of the U.S. border is pleading for federal help amid an influx of refugee claimants, including nearly two dozen this past weekend, who have endured the harsh prairie winter to cross into Canada.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...er-jumpers-since-trump-order/article33946647/

Canadian border authorities detaining record number of Mexicans
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-immigration-mexicans-exclusive-idUSKBN16O2W3

Canada's border authorities detained more Mexicans in the first 67 days of 2017 than they did annually in any of the three previous years, according to statistics obtained by Reuters.

The spike comes immediately after Canada's federal government lifted its visa requirement for Mexican citizens in December.

Many Mexicans looking north have shifted their focus from the United States to Canada as President Donald Trump vows to crack down on America's undocumented immigrants, about half of whom are Mexican. On Friday, Reuters reported, immigration judges were reassigned to 12 U.S. cities to speed up deportation.

The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) said it detained 444 Mexican nationals between Jan. 1 and March 8, compared with 410 for all of 2016, 351 for 2015, and 399 for 2014.

The CBSA can detain foreign nationals if it is believed they pose a danger to the public, if their identity is unclear or if they are deemed unlikely to appear for removal or for a proceeding.

The number of Mexicans turned back at the airport has risen, too - to 313 in January, more than any January since 2012 and more than the annual totals for 2012, 2013 and 2014.

With the visa requirement lifted, all that Mexicans need to come to Canada is an Electronic Travel Authorization (eTA), obtainable online in a matter of minutes. But they cannot work without a work permit, and the eTA does not guarantee entry.

Canada issued 72,450 travel authorizations to Mexican citizens between Dec. 1, 2016, and March 10, 2017 - a significant increase compared with a similar period when visas were required.

Canada's Immigration and Refugee Minister Ahmed Hussen has said his department is monitoring the situation.

"It would be premature to draw conclusions or to speculate on future policy at this point," Hussen's spokeswoman, Camielle Edwards, wrote in an email Friday evening.

 

[achilles28]

This is actually bad news for Canada. Trump deporting the worst first.

Chances are most of these Mexicans headed for the great white north are criminals. Not good.

 

[achilles28]

It's true. End all low and no skilled immigration. And foreign worker (Tim Hortons) program. Hurts the bottom 60% of blue collar Canadians so the upper 10% can virtue signal and pat themselves on the back for how charitable they are. While they fuck their fellow country men. Just like America. Land of delusion.