Right, 21% from Indiana and another 39% from other states. Meaning 3 in 5 guns in Chicago come from outside of Illinois.
Democrat Senator: ‘No One Is Safe Until Congress Acts On Gun Violence’
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Right, 21% from Indiana and another 39% from other states. Meaning 3 in 5 guns in Chicago come from outside of Illinois.
I agree with most of what you wrote especially the point on grenade launchers. I do disagree that guns would come into this country like drugs. Other countries don’t manufacture guns anywhere near the volume we do. There simply isn’t the capacity to supply the market.
Also think about how many people it would take to make weapons by hand to supply us with all the guns that get used illegally in this country. And guns aren’t like drugs a kilo of meth can supply 100s of users where as a gun that is approximately the same size can only serve 1 person.
So in typical liberal fashion, you want to restrict the rights of law-abiding people rather than deal with the actual problem, black gangs.
Chicago is out of control, but then so are Baltimore, Detroit and a half dozen other cities. They all share a common denominator. What could it be?
What rights have I said should be restricted? I gave up on proposing ideas on this issue a while ago.
This country is at the mercy of the nra and conservatives when it comes to gun violence and mass shootings. Until those two groups of people can reconcile public safety with gun owneship rights this country will have shamefully high murder, suicide and mass shooting rates.
why do you guys veil your beliefs in rhetorical questions? Have the courage of your convictions and say what you want to say about Chicago and Detroit and Baltimore.
So if we pass some gun laws everyone will be "safe"?
How about passing a law against murder?
Are you saying gun laws are not effective in reducing murder and suicide rates?
No lie there. I grew up in the state that- at that time- had the lowest crime rate but the highest number of guns per family. An inconvenient truth.
What is missing in the coverage and discussion of this issue is that is the goddam government that did not follow the law so - once again everyone wants to ramp up the efforts to take guns away from the people.
As a gun owner who grew up in a rural hunting culture where absolutely everyone has/had guns we absolutely nevertheless demanded that the government keep guns out of the hands of nutcases along with non-gun owners. The frigging Air Force failed to enter this guys domestic violence and criminal history into the database that would have prevented him from buying some guns, maybe not rifles not sure. Whose goddam fault is that? The peoples or the government's? Do your frigging job and enforce the laws that you have before taking action against the people.
Speaking of Texas. Let's recall the Fort Hood Massacre or as Obama called it "the isolated instance of workplace violence." Captain Muslim there had been reprimanded and investigated many times for complaints that he kept going off the rails at work meetings and seminars where he would froth at the mouth about islam and jihad related tendencies. He was surrounded by psychiatrists and was a psychiatrist himself so the army was wallowing in people who were pointing out the fact that he was wacked. Further, the army had direct knowledge that he had been communicating on the internet with Alwar al Wacko, the second in command of Alqueda in Yemen before we killed him. But no, they merrily keep passing him along and he ends out at Fort Hood. The government failed every goddam step of the way. But then afterwards everyone wants to take guns away from law abiding citizens. Meanwhile the government is running a jihad fest or failing to report crimes into the database as required by law.
What's wrong with that picture class?
As a gun owner who grew up in a rural hunting culture where absolutely everyone has/had guns we absolutely nevertheless demanded that the government keep guns out of the hands of nutcases along with non-gun owners. The frigging Air Force failed to enter this guys domestic violence and criminal history into the database that would have prevented him from buying some guns, maybe not rifles not sure. Whose goddam fault is that? The peoples or the government's? Do your frigging job and enforce the laws that you have before taking action against the people.
Speaking of Texas. Let's recall the Fort Hood Massacre or as Obama called it "the isolated instance of workplace violence." Captain Muslim there had been reprimanded and investigated many times for complaints that he kept going off the rails at work meetings and seminars where he would froth at the mouth about islam and jihad related tendencies. He was surrounded by psychiatrists and was a psychiatrist himself so the army was wallowing in people who were pointing out the fact that he was wacked. Further, the army had direct knowledge that he had been communicating on the internet with Alwar al Wacko, the second in command of Alqueda in Yemen before we killed him. But no, they merrily keep passing him along and he ends out at Fort Hood. The government failed every goddam step of the way. But then afterwards everyone wants to take guns away from law abiding citizens. Meanwhile the government is running a jihad fest or failing to report crimes into the database as required by law.
What's wrong with that picture class?
No more effective than laws against murder or suicide. If someone intends to commit murder does a law prevent? Are you naive enough to think a murderer would obey a gun law?
Yes I am saying gun laws are ineffective. Only law abiding people obey laws.
Then you would be wrong. Gun laws are effective in reducing gun violence, murder and suicide.
For 2013, the 10 states with the highest firearm age-adjusted death rates were: Alaska (19.8), Louisiana (19.3), Mississippi (17.8), Alabama (17.6), Arkansas (16.8), Wyoming (16.7), Montana (16.7), Oklahoma (16.5), New Mexico (15.5) and Tennessee (15.4).
The 10 states with the lowest firearm age-adjusted death rates were, starting with the lowest: Hawaii (2.6), Massachusetts (3.1), New York (4.2), Connecticut (4.4), Rhode Island (5.3), New Jersey (5.7), New Hampshire (6.4), Minnesota (7.6), California (7.7) and Iowa (8.0).
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/gun-laws-deaths-and-crimes/
And the US compared to other countries:
http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...paign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202806
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