Go read the information from the NIH. The very definition of HIGH RISK is UNVACCINATED when it comes to Covid. Over 97% of those hospitalized or dead with Covid are unvaccinated. As well as these unvaccinated being variant factories spreading misery and death across society.
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Delta spread directly due to unvaccinated people
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Go read the information from the NIH. The very definition of HIGH RISK is UNVACCINATED when it comes to Covid. Over 97% of those hospitalized or dead with Covid are unvaccinated. As well as these unvaccinated being variant factories spreading misery and death across society.
CDC director blames COVID setbacks in spread of delta variant on unvaccinated people
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article253156748.html
Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, on Friday firmly blamed recent setbacks in preventing the spread of the delta variant of the coronavirus squarely on unvaccinated Americans who have defied federal guidance to continue wearing masks.
With the highly contagious delta variant of COVID-19 spreading nationwide, and new scientific data indicating that vaccinated people can spread the virus just as easily as those who have not been vaccinated, the CDC earlier this week reversed its guidance and said fully vaccinated Americans now should wear masks indoors.
“Our guidance in May said that fully vaccinated people could take off their masks safely, and that unvaccinated people should continue to wear them. Unfortunately, that’s not how it played out,” Walensky said in a phone interview with McClatchy. “Unvaccinated people took off their masks as well. And that’s what led us to where we are today.”
The CDC director said she expects a greater number of positive cases among vaccinated people – known as “breakthrough” cases – to surface in the coming weeks. As more people get vaccinated, the number of those cases will also go up, she said, especially with the amount of virus spreading throughout the country.
But the vaccines are working as intended according to the data, she said, noting that clinical trials for the vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna showed they were roughly 90% effective at preventing disease.
“People might come out and say, ‘oh, my friend was vaccinated and got COVID,’” she said. “And what I would say is, if these vaccines are working at 90% protection against symptomatic disease, if you know 10 people who’ve been vaccinated, one of them may be a breakthrough case.”
The new CDC guidance recommends that vaccinated Americans resume wearing masks indoors if they are in a community with a significant or high rate of viral transmission.
Roughly 80% of the counties that have the most disease are places that have less than 40% of their residents vaccinated, she said.
But the contagiousness of the delta variant may still pose a threat to vaccinated individuals that is not yet fully known.
Walensky pointed to a recent study published in The New England Journal of Medicine outlining Israeli data that indicates a number of vaccinated people who experienced breakthrough cases have suffered from “long COVID,” or symptoms that have lasted for weeks or months.
“Some of their breakthrough infections have had disease for a long period of time,” Walensky said. “So I think data are going to start emerging in this area, but there is some concern based on that Israeli paper that that might be the case.”
The CDC is “carefully” examining data from clinical trials, vaccine manufacturers and international partners to see whether booster shots could be needed for vaccinated people – or help blunt the effects of the delta variant, she said.
“What I will say is, we are actively reviewing the data, and simultaneously actively working to ensure that the day the data signals that it is time to get a booster, we will be ready to deliver it,” she said.
The delta variant is among the most contagious infectious diseases scientists have seen in modern times and swept the country to become the most dominant strain of the coronavirus in the United States in just two months. “When I think of infectious infectious diseases, this delta variant is topping my list,” Walensky said.
The CDC director warned that the virus would evolve– potentially into even more contagious and deadlier forms – if it is able to continue mutating in unvaccinated hosts.
Walensky declined to predict how long Americans would have to wear masks going forward.
“This whole pandemic has been humbling,” she said. “The science evolves quickly – as the science evolves, my responsibility is to deliver that information to the American people so that they can protect themselves. So I would think it would be foolish of me to project where we’re going to be.”
“What I would say about how these variants evolve is that they evolve to survive,” she said. “One of the things I think we’re all worried about in the scientific community is if they evolve to survive to outsmart our vaccines. That is one possible path that they might use to evolve,” Walensky said.
“So could it become more transmissible? I suppose it could,” she added. “Could it evolve to evade our therapeutics? That is one possibility. Could it evolve to evade our vaccines? That’s certainly another possibility.”
There was a guest on NPR a few weeks ago who said "Delta makes everything we've been telling the public less true," and this statement probably follows suit.
Antibodies Persist for More Than a Year After COVID-19 Infection, Study Finds
The immune systems of the vast majority of people who have been infected with the CCP virus will continue to carry antibodies against the virus for at least 12 months, according to a peer-reviewed study accepted by the European Journal of Immunology on Sept. 24.
Scientists at the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare studied the presence of antibodies in 1,292 subjects eight months after infection. They found that 96 percent of the subjects still carried neutralizing antibodies and 66 percent still carried a type of antibody
Read the full article here
https://m.theepochtimes.com/antibod...tml?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge
The immune systems of the vast majority of people who have been infected with the CCP virus will continue to carry antibodies against the virus for at least 12 months, according to a peer-reviewed study accepted by the European Journal of Immunology on Sept. 24.
Scientists at the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare studied the presence of antibodies in 1,292 subjects eight months after infection. They found that 96 percent of the subjects still carried neutralizing antibodies and 66 percent still carried a type of antibody
Read the full article here
https://m.theepochtimes.com/antibod...tml?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge
Antibodies Persist for More Than a Year After COVID-19 Infection, Study Finds
The immune systems of the vast majority of people who have been infected with the CCP virus will continue to carry antibodies against the virus for at least 12 months, according to a peer-reviewed study accepted by the European Journal of Immunology on Sept. 24.
Scientists at the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare studied the presence of antibodies in 1,292 subjects eight months after infection. They found that 96 percent of the subjects still carried neutralizing antibodies and 66 percent still carried a type of antibody
Read the full article here
https://m.theepochtimes.com/antibod...tml?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge
You do realize this article twists around what the study revealed — basically ignoring 34% of the people had no antibodies after being naturally infected. Of course this is the type of distortion you would expect from a media source which calls Covid-19 the CCP virus.
Didn’t it come from China?You do realize this article twists around what the study revealed — basically ignoring 34% of the people had no antibodies after being naturally infected. Of course this is the type of distortion you would expect from a media source which calls Covid-19 the CCP virus.
Why do you ignore the science behind natural immunity? Most people/science are now coming to the realization that post infection antibodies and immune response are on par or better than immunization.
But we know why you post here.
Didn’t it come from China?
Why do you ignore the science behind natural immunity? Most people/science are now coming to the realization that post infection antibodies and immune response are on par or better than immunization.
But we know why you post here.
I have fully outlined my position (multiple times) on allowing “natural immunity” with regular antibody level testing to be used as an equivalent of vaccination for “vaccine passports”.
The most important part of the science regarding “natural antibody immunity” is that it wanes over time and over 30% of people who are infected with Covid develop no anti-body immunity whatsoever as shown in multiple mainstream studies.
I have fully outlined my position (multiple times) on allowing “natural immunity” with regular antibody level testing to be used as an equivalent of vaccination for “vaccine passports”.
The most important part of the science regarding “natural antibody immunity” is that it wanes over time and over 30% of people who are infected with Covid develop no anti-body immunity whatsoever as shown in multiple mainstream studies.
If you live in a bubble and are not re-exposed to the virus, I can see that happening.
Don’t see that happening, more likely the body learns the virus and mounts an immune response every time it comes in contact.
Every time getting stronger.
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If you live in a bubble and are not re-exposed to the virus, I can see that happening.
Don’t see that happening, more likely the body learns the virus and mounts an immune response every time it comes in contact.
Every time getting stronger.
You do realize that the unvaccinated are more than twice as likely to be re-infected with Covid. There is an entire thread dedicated to this subject.
Bottom Line: The best path to avoiding re-infection is to get vaccinated. Your “natural antibody immunity” does not get stronger over time in face of repeated exposures, it wanes.
That makes absolutely zero sense.You do realize that the unvaccinated are more than twice as likely to be re-infected with Covid. There is an entire thread dedicated to this subject.
Bottom Line: The best path to avoiding re-infection is to get vaccinated. Your “natural antibody immunity” does not get stronger over time in face of repeated exposures, it wanes.
Either by infection or immunization you body’s immune system is tested and it responds with an immune response msking antibodies, T&B cells, etc.
If vaccines wane over time hence a booster to put the immune system back to optimal level why wouldn’t a second exposure to the virus do the exact same thing? The body beat the virus by creating the needed antibodies, T&B cells the first time.... why not a second? If the vaccine gets better with a second dose why wouldn’t the body develop a better natural response?
I would say your 30% would be the likely candidates for break through infections in vaccinated individuals. Their immune system is weak regardless.
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Wallet actually said some correct things though he is still unable to see the bigger picture gotcha. Mention damnation via the big book of Jewish fairytails and he tries to think, for five minutes.