Debt ceiling, the next GQP manufactured crisis

[Frederick Foresight]

Most of them already said they wont be voting for or volunteering for Biden in 2024 before the debt limit surrender though.

So how will they vote next year?

 

[Tony Stark]

So how will they vote next year?

Stay home or Green Party.

Our volunteer numbers were huge in 2008,2012 and 2020.They were low in 2016 because many did not like Hillary.Currently the number of volunteers for 2024 are far lower than 2016.Currently the people who say they wont vote for Biden are far higher than those who said they wouldn't vote for Hillery.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Stay home

 

[Tony Stark]

Evil is subjective.To many progressives Biden is evil.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Evil is subjective.To many progressives Biden is evil.

And the likely alternative on the other side? What's the subjectivity there?

 

[Tony Stark]

And the likely alternative on the other side? What's the subjectivity there?

Both are the enemy to progressives,one is honest about it.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Both are the enemy to progressives,one is honest about it.

I think that's all-or-nothing thinking. In the gritty world of opposing views, especially extreme ones, shit sandwiches are inevitable. As I'm sure you know, the idea is to get as much bread as you can so as not to taste too much of the shit in the middle. Pretending the shit doesn't exist won't make it go away. Whatever you may think of Biden, you have to admit that there is an unprecedented number of shit producers in politics today. He's just trying to make the best sandwiches he can. You may not agree with his culinary skills, but at least his heart is in the right place and he's not trying to poison you like the other side.

 

[Tony Stark]

I think that's all-or-nothing thinking. In the gritty world of opposing views, especially extreme ones, shit sandwiches are inevitable. As I'm sure you know, the idea is to get as much bread as you can so as not to taste too much of the shit in the middle. Pretending the shit doesn't exist won't make it go away. Whatever you may think of Biden, you have to admit that there is an unprecedented number of shit producers in politics today. He's just trying to make the best sandwiches he can. You may not agree with his culinary skills, but at least his heart is in the right place and he's not trying to poison you like the other side.

I respect your opinion as always.Ive voted for,volunteered for, and donated to Hillery,Biden and other moderate Dems my whole life because they were the lesser of 2 evils.Cant do it anymore.I realized I am more angry and disappointed during Bidens presidency than I was under Trumps.I will still support progressive Dems but I'm done supporting and voting for moderate Dems and have accepted living under Republican rule.Biden poll numbers suggest I am not the only one.

 

[Cuddles]

I respect your opinion as always.Ive voted for,volunteered for, and donated to Hillery,Biden and other moderate Dems my whole life because they were the lesser of 2 evils.Cant do it anymore.I realized I am more angry and disappointed during Bidens presidency than I was under Trumps.I will still support progressive Dems but I'm done supporting and voting for moderate Dems and have accepted living under Republican rule.Biden poll numbers suggest I am not the only one.

you need to go out and touch grass if that's the case. I'll be frank and not sugarcoat, the whole post just reads overprivileged.

 

[Tony Stark]

you need to go out and touch grass if that's the case. I'll be frank and not sugarcoat, the whole post just reads overprivileged.

I used to vote democrat in part to support the underprivileged,but moderate Dems aren't even doing anything for them.Look at how Biden just threw them under the bus in this debt ceiling deal.No cuts to defense spending,tax hikes for the rich,money for healthcare,min wage increase etc demanded though.