DB says Nor did the Muslims start the conflict with the Christians

he eight... interesting site you got there.

I really enjoyed this video... from a link on the front page of that site.


 
you even troll about history... what is wrong with you stu?
if you wish to support db's point... provide your argument.

On this thread we have simply repeated history that:

a. The Roman Empire became Christian after the Roman Empire had expanded.
b. You know that Christianity spread within its territory in spite of the sword not with it.
c. You also know that the Muslims invaded, conquered, raped and looted lands far outside of "Arab" lands.


You just seem to be trolling your ass off... what is your point stu?

are you arguing the Muslims were motivated to return Arab lands to arabs and that they were also motivated by jihad and jizya.
If so at the time of the attack please state who was in control and what the motivation was and if the land was arab.





The reality is known history.
A thousand years of history in which the Roman Empire (declaring itself to be the christian Roman Empire) was constantly in conflict with those whose lands it had invaded.

WeeTodd, obviously by mistake , just shot your (and his) whole ridiculous nonsense in the head by listing a sequence of maps showing a broad swathe of what were predominantly Arab lands in blue, but now representing Christianity in which sits the invading Imperial Roman Empire.

That's evidence you've endorsed showing christians in the form of the Roman Empire controlling lands they (the Roman Empire) took by conquering indigenous Arab dynasties etc., long before any muslims ever come on the scene!

But of course as a christian you want to know why muslims "started it". :confused:

That's what might be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. You, and one or two other wingnut apologists.
 
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you even troll about history... what is wrong with you stu?
if you wish to support db's point... provide your argument.

On this thread we have simply repeated history that:

a. The Roman Empire became Christian after the Roman Empire had expanded.
b. You know that Christianity spread within its territory in spite of the sword not with it.
c. You also know that the Muslims invaded, conquered, raped and looted lands far outside of "Arab" lands.


You just seem to be trolling your ass off... what is your point stu?

are you arguing the Muslims were motivated to return Arab lands to arabs and that they were also motivated by jihad and jizya.
If so at the time of the attack please state who was in control and what the motivation was and if the land was arab.


I understand how you don't have the capacity to rationally debate these subjects so it's no surprise you are now completely and utterly missing the point once again .

To simplify, first take this comment of yours....
c. You also know that the Muslims invaded, conquered, raped and looted lands far outside of "Arab" lands.
Now consider this....

'You also know' that the Roman Empire had invaded, conquered, raped and looted lands far outside of "Christian" lands for hundreds of years before any muslim existed.
You do know that... right?


Integral to your ridiculous notion is a hand waving away of all conflicts, war and aggression Imperial Rome had started and christian Byzantine Rome perpetuated by first invading and then holding on to the East 700 years before any Islam or muslims were even thought of at all.

It's that simple. You want to shift all blame for everything from christians (you) to muslims (them) as if history hadn't started before muslims got their own ideas of empire or whatever.

As usual you 're being ridiculous just to act as apologist for your own religion.
 
wow... we ask for information and all we get back is vague douchery.
you just saw that no one is denying the existence of other wars.
We have just requested you provide some support for your vague argument.

On the other thread I simply said the Christians did not start it.
Db said neither did the Muslims.

All we ask is support for that thesis.
Maybe DB is right... we just want the argument and the support.


Its as if tweedle douche and tweedle troll are not paid if they support facts with links because it may drive traffic to other sources.
 
You've been given "support". Problem is that you process it through your tangled wiring and arrive at conclusions that have nothing to do with the support given. So what's the point?
 
a "new" rule... never argue with a douches like db.
he will only bring your argumentation down to his level and then he will try and beat you with his experience.

note... you would think he would provide some links.. no?


You've been given "support". Problem is that you process it through your tangled wiring and arrive at conclusions that have nothing to do with the support given. So what's the point?
 
a "new" rule... never argue with a douches like db.
he will only bring your argumentation down to his level and then he will try and beat you with his experience.

note... you would think he would provide some links.. no?

He didn't win "Troll of the Year" for nothing...
 
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