Croatia Introduces Digital Nomad Visas

[virtusa]

Actually that's a terribly written article, which doesn't make clear what is so different from getting a 6 months tourist visa, something that isn't particularly difficult to obtain in Europe.

It's one thing to be able to get a long term stay visa, it's another thing altogether to secure a work visa. Croatia seems to offer long term stay visas to those who wish to live in Croatia but I'm sure it will also restrict people from getting a job in Croatia and may even impose some form of taxation. It's all benefit for Croatia to have financially independent individuals contributing to the local economy without stressing the job market or the government provided safety net.

As a EU citizen you can work anywhere in EU.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/work-abroad/equal-treatment-with-nationals/index_en.htm

So no restriction for jobs. The EU law says clearly:

As an EU national, you must be treated in exactly the same way as your colleagues who are nationals of your host country.

This covers:

• Pay and other employment and working conditions
• Health and safety at work
• Access to training, vocational schools and retraining centres – for you and your children
• Access to housing, including social housing or facilitated access to home ownership
• Your right to join a trade union, vote and be elected to the administration or management posts of a union
• Social and tax advantages
• Dismissal, reinstatement after dismissal and re-employment

 

[VicBee]

What you tell is complete nonsense.

This is EU law:
Each country has its own definition of tax residence, yet:

• you will usually be considered tax-resident in the country where you spend more than 6 months a year
  
  
• you will normally remain tax-resident in your home country if you spend less than 6 months a year in another EU country.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/taxes/income-taxes-abroad/index_en.htm

Where is the nonsense? 183 days is 6 months. So if you spend more than 183 days you are resident of that country, that's bullet point #1. As for bullet point #2, home country isn't defined. So for example, if you live 4 months in 3 different countries, you are resident of none. Or, if you live 5 months in 2 countries and travel the world for 2 months, you are still resident of none.

 

[virtusa]

Where is the nonsense? 183 days is 6 months. So if you spend more than 183 days you are resident of that country, that's bullet point #1. As for bullet point #2, home country isn't defined. So for example, if you live 4 months in 3 different countries, you are resident of none. Or, if you live 5 months in 2 countries and travel the world for 2 months, you are still resident of none.

I speak of personal experience. You too?????

Your 183 may days define where you will be taxed. But the 183 days rule is no garantee to escape any taxation.
Read again what EU laws say. If you stay nowhere 183 days, you stay resident of the country where you register the last time as resident. You cannot escape taxation in EU.
"you will normally remain tax-resident in your home country if you spend less than 6 months a year in another EU country."

 

[VicBee]

I speak of personal experience. You too?????

Your 183 may days define where you will be taxed. But the 183 days rule is no garantee to escape any taxation.
Read again what EU laws say. If you stay nowhere 183 days, you stay resident of the country where you register the last time as resident. You cannot escape taxation in EU.
"you will normally remain tax-resident in your home country if you spend less than 6 months a year in another EU country."

My situation is a bit different because I am EU and US citizen so I have tax obligations with the US. But I am resident of a non EU country and not US. When I leave that country, I will live 5 months in 1 of my EU properties , 3 months in another and 3 months outside the EU... If I wasn't a US citizen, I would have no tax obligations in Europe.

 

[virtusa]

If I wasn't a US citizen, I would have no tax obligations in Europe.

Depends if you would be EU citizen or not. As EU citizen you would have tax obligations.
As a non EU citizen you would need visas all the time to enter the EU or leave every three months.

Conclusion : you are not able in your actual situation to be a non tax paying nomad. If you could you would, but you cannot. So you showed that the 183 days rule does not always work for tax avoidance.
If you take any legal job you need a residence address, so that's where they start for taxation. As a nomad you cannot have a regular job.

 

[VicBee]

Depends if you would be EU citizen or not. As EU citizen you would have tax obligations.
As a non EU citizen you would need visas all the time to enter the EU or leave every three months.

Conclusion : you are not able in your actual situation to be a non tax paying nomad. If you could you would, but you cannot. So you proof that the 183 days rule does not always work for tax avoidance.
If you take any legal job you need a residence address, so that's where they start for taxation.

Depends if you would be EU citizen or not. As EU citizen you would have tax obligations.
As a non EU citizen you would need visas all the time to enter the EU or leave every three months.

Conclusion : you are not able in your actual situation to be a non tax paying nomad. If you could you would, but you cannot. So you proof that the 183 days rule does not always work for tax avoidance.
If you take any legal job you need a residence address, so that's where they start for taxation.

We need to backtrack the discussion -which is relevant to Croatia- to understand what the reason is to be or not to be resident of a country. I don't suggest that non residents avoid income tax from working in that country. That's unavoidable, although a US citizen, held by global income obligations, also gets to take a number of helpful taxe deductions.
The more concerning issue is that some countries (Spain for example) will tax a resident on global assets, not just local revenues. So that's where I was coming from with my non residency statement.
I may be a citizen of Europe, but I will remain a non resident by ensuring I spend less than 6 months in anyone Euro countries with additional non residency abroad. Does that make sense?
There are many global non resident people roaming the world and there are websites dedicated to finding ways around frustrating limits, such as a residence address for banking. But there are more and more solutions (Revolut, Transferwise,etc.) to support that growing market and Croatia is opening the door for making it easier for nomads to settle a bit.

 

[Sig]

It is clear that if you thinking of moving to Croatia or Estonia just because you can live on a thousand Euro, I have a bridge to sell you. My main point as the article I posted that you as an expat, not speaking the language will be fucking miserable and lose your bankroll most likely.
As to the idiotic comment of me being Racist, what country in a world would welcome illiterate hordes who wish to enter forcefully? EU is under attack and if you do not see it your head is in your anus deeply, my friend.

Again, when was the last time you were in Croatia? Oh, that's right, never. You seem fixated on turning this into a Trump talking point where you older folks are consumed by fear about a reality that simply doesn't exist. The only "hoards" that are the Boogeymen in your closet, again if you've been to Europe in the past year you would realize the patent absurdity of your depiction. I do seriously want to know what the turning point was for you to turn from a well traveled person into a fearful old man? I very much want to avoid ending up like that.