Quote from j2ee:
I am just saying the truth. For example, you can be in 3M making very high tech plastic for 50 years but have no idea how to write a trading system at all.
Quote from Makis:
For what it's worth, for 9 out of 10 job openings in real HFT shops, with everything else being equal, candidates from 3M are more preferable that candidates from IBanks.
Actually, most HFT job descriptions nowadays indicate "prefer candidates from tech companies than banks", but that is in the real world. Here whoever can BS the most is the best guy to build a trading system.
Quote from j2ee:
Most of the "HFT shops" are ibanks, do you understand what are you trying to say?
Quote from Makis:
With exception of couple of people, it should be very obvious for anyone to understand what I said. HFT job openings prefer candidates from technology related companies than finance related companies.
Assuming you do not confuse IBanks offering low latency execution services for client algorithmic trading, you are wrong.
By definition a bank is regulated by SEC and the Dodd Frank act made it almost impossible for those organizations to prop trade in any frequency. Any banks that had or still have HFT prop groups they either spin off as hedge funds, sell to hedge funds or simply close. Some have found the Market Maker loophole and still engage, but by far, banks are not deep in the game either measured in dollar or transaction volume.
Quote from j2ee:
Any news to support your point? I regularly see banks/ibanks hiring HFT related staff, but I am not located in USA.
Ibank/bank is very big and has many departments. A trading related department experience would be much more important than having a phd in most of the cases, except very outstanding direct related hft kind of phd.
Quote from j2ee:Show us your real brokerage transaction statements. A pic with some number on it means nothing in the internet world.
Anyway are you trading with HFT? If not better prepare for hftvol.
Quote from Makis:
No, no news. Now that I am thinking about it you are right. The perfect candidates for HFT jobs are MBAs with background in High Touch Trading. PhDs in physics or other hard sciences, not related with trading, are not really very optimal candidates for HFT job openings.
At the same time investment banks are thriving on HFT trading and are hiring to further expand their prop trading operations. Sorry for wasting your time.