Covid-19: So now what?

That´s much better than being locked indoors or not allowed to travel, I spent quite a bit of time in shitholes like Myanmar where medical care was mostly useless and I can deal with it, if life was fun there at least, like in Yangon - China just sucked.

To the narcissistic person who loves to travel, then yeah, they don't care about full hospitals ... until they need a bed, and can't find one.
 
Fair enough, besides extra deaths in Spain have exceeded the worst recent flu season afaik, but again why excess deaths were so much higher than covid declared deaths is an issue here not yet sorted out. Too extreme a lockdown and social panic are prime suspects though.
Lockdowns should be done smartly; so it wouldn't surprise me learn that they aren't being done smartly everywhere.

Lockdowns should be base on proper models. Models should consider known infection vectors, and their propensities to infect; and local and long-distance, real-time, hospital capacities. Etc.
 
To the narcissistic person who loves to travel, then yeah, they don't care about full hospitals ... until they need a bed, and can't find one.


That´s not an objective argument. It´s trying to justify the scared of all people are the ones whose advice is to be followed, because u know, they don´t want the worse to happen. Known a few people over the years who died because of poor emergency services in the emerging world and have had to deal for myself and kids with shitty hospitals, it´s bad, but a better situation than being jailed for your own good (to me, at least)
Besides again, the argument of overwhelmed hospitals justifying locking people indoors has been shown to be much of a lie. Death from lack of care in underwhelmed western hospitals because of covid prioritization has been documented though.
 
Death from lack of care in underwhelmed western hospitals because of covid prioritization has been documented though.
If hospitals are not at a likely risk to be overwhelmed, then there should be no lockdowns in that area.
 
I don't speak Spanish. Could not find any English source? Can't be that your claim only holds valid in Spain, does it?

Below are links, but useless to u I´m afraid, how can someone be so blinded in bad faith to claim there´s maybe 1 extra death here and 3 there linked to lockdown ?

Link below in Spanish, 48000 extra death from MArch to June, around 28000 deaths on official count by then .

https://www.rtve.es/noticias/202010...ertes-pico-pandemia-coronavirus/2046640.shtml

double heart attacks deaths during the pandemic :

https://www.elmundo.es/ciencia-y-salud/salud/2020/09/14/5f5f5f0ffdddffdf038b45c1.html
 
Because the government there locked down entire cities and people have more common sense there in seeing the benefits of wearing face masks. Chinese religiously wore and wear face masks. Simple as that

It's not spreading in Korea or Wuhan where I have family the way it is in the USA. In my town fifty percent have refused to follow any rules so it was never under control.
 
And because it's not sorted out Dr Luis took the liberty to make a few assertions and insinuations? Not of too high statistical validity and quite unscientific if you ask me.

Fair enough, besides extra deaths in Spain have exceeded the worst recent flu season afaik, but again why excess deaths were so much higher than covid declared deaths is an issue here not yet sorted out. Too extreme a lockdown and social panic are prime suspects though.
 
Perhaps after all there is something we can all learn from the Chinese. :)

Lockdowns should be done smartly; so it wouldn't surprise me learn that they aren't being done smartly everywhere.

Lockdowns should be base on proper models. Models should consider known infection vectors, and their propensities to infect; and local and long-distance, real-time, hospital capacities. Etc.
 
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