Coronavirus DEBATE: Why are Americans dumb as fck?

[Bugenhagen]

"The bottom line, experts say, is that masks might help keep people with COVID-19 from unknowingly passing along the virus. But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited, and masks aren't the most important protection against the coronavirus."

https://www.livescience.com/are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronavirus-spread.html

One thing I never see mentioned or hardly talked about is how does a mask keep a virus from entering from the eyes? They don't. So a mask is not going to prevent someone from sneezing or coughing into your eyes!

AND if you get a bug on your precious mask you will carry it home and spread that bug to your family.

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.

So a believed tiny percentage of people have been infected via their eyes therefore there is no point in doing anything about the very vast majority of infections via respiration.

 

[Nine_Ender]

The DUMB Americans are wearing masks because they are full of needless fear!

You really are incredibly ignorant.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

People like their freedom, and don’t like being told what to do.

How bad exactly is Covid?

Perhaps you should have some and then compare it with all that must-have-now freedom. And then report back to us.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

If you're not in a vulnerable population move on with your life.

Is that what you’re doing?

 

[Nine_Ender]

2 months ago: "If people go out they will die!"

2 weeks ago: "If you don't go out and protest people will die!"

Americans are understandably tired of pseudo-intellectual bullshit running our lives. The CDC has walked back 3/4 of their safety statements. Even in the highest effected areas the R0 is low enough to be a non-issue to the average healthy American. If you're not in a vulnerable population move on with your life.



But hey thanks for the low quality bait.

There are people who didn't die, and are going through rehab of a serious nature. There is also a lot on unknowns on the long term impact on people's health given that there can be lung damage that lasts at least 10 years. I'm no medical person but plenty of experts in the field are very clear you don't want to catch this virus if you can avoid it. So it's incredibly stupid to see people like "Jem" actively encouraging "low risk" people to catch the virus.

His and others plans to do so is working in the US. Yesterdays stats showed something like 380 new cases in Canada and 33,000 new cases in the US. It's a rapid spike suggesting many people are not taking appropriate precautions.

Maybe Americans will get lucky on this, roll the dice sacrifice a lot of older and frail people and move on ( immoral on some levels imo ). However, if this gets worse, it's on the "Jem"'s of the world they are practically daring the virus to have a huge second wave worse then the first.

You can pretend the lock down wasn't needed but that is exactly the kind of thinking that allowed the virus to get a strong position in the US in the first place ( as much as 3 times worse then Canada from day one ).

 

[Frederick Foresight]

I believe in science and data not Fauci.

Are you sniffing again?

 

[Nine_Ender]

Is that what you’re doing?

If only the virus was a risk to the people taking dumb risks.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

If only the virus was a risk to the people taking dumb risks.

I believe you’re referring to the Trump base.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Why? Simple, the boogeyman never showed up. We've been hearing the prophets of doom telling us we're all gonna die, and it hasn't materialized, not even close. NYC for a couple two three weeks had a count going worth a second look, and it faded fast. No grand calamity. Hospitals handled it fine, no shortage of anything except perspective, all the extra beds never used, just a hyped up scare. And that was NYC. The entire rest of the country pretty much zilch.
Weeks later we discover half the dead were in Nursing Homes which could have been avoided. The rest have been mostly old and frail, or have a list of preexisting conditions. Add it all up and it's not even on par with a bad flu season. That's why most of the nation sees this for the bullshit campaign strategy that it is. No covid boogeyman equals try something else. Enter mob violence.

BS. The stats are massive in the US. As per usual, you are too dumb for words and should probably just shut up but you are too dumb to realize that too.

Without the lock down you would have been totally screwed. No doubts at all.

 

[jem]

Expert opinion without the data and science to support it... does not mean much.
Especially when there are experts saying the opposite...

For instance the WHO told us in writing on June 5th masks don't to anything unless you are working with the sick.

And the vast majority of studies on masks found there was no data showing the efficacy of masks for the public with similar types of virus.
Now some recent "studies" observe that masks and social distancing are correlated with a reduction of spread... Yeah maybe... .or maybe its a happy coincidence since we started isolating the sick and those with compromised immune systems.

There may also be plenty of health problems with masks....


Some of the 95 type masks let you breath out 100 percent of the virus.
Other masks get filled with bacteria and virus (if you have it) so fast you would have to replace them every few minutes or you are going to be breathing in all sorts of stuff that can make you sick and perhaps blowing out a more potent or higher viral load if you are sick.

The efficacy of masks is very unsettled. And anyone who has tried working out (hard) with a mask on..... knows your body screams for you to take it off so you can get more oxygen.

Depriving yourself of oxygen over time is a sure way to compromise your immune system. Sucking in fibers can not be good for you lungs either.

So the next time you tell me the "experts say"... produce the data and the science and I will be happy to read it.

So you disagree with top epidemiologists Fauci and others?

Don't you trust scientists and doctors? They say to wear masks.

Seriously I'm surprised so many seem to minimize this pandemic that kills so many people daily. I would think the debate would be over what type of masks are best etc