Success! 700 million infected globally!
62 million US cases
250,000 hospitalized
13,000 dead!
Bravo team Odumbo!
Corona death rate in US worse than Iran's
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62 million US cases
250,000 hospitalized
13,000 dead!
Bravo team Odumbo!
and guess what, we managed to contain it allowing us to develop a vaccine. COVID is already at 6000 dead only 3 months in. How long until your 13,000 count?
Spoken like someone who knows fuck all about biology, virology, etc...
Not to mention you can’t even get the numbers right.
Lordy....
But yeah, by all accounts, great job team Oblahblah.
since laces refused to answer, the answer is one year. It took one year for 12,000+ Americans to die from H1N1 of 61 million cases (.02% mortality).....compared to 60 dead Americans so far from COVID w/3000 cases (2% mortality).
From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.
Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age. This differs greatly from typical seasonal influenza epidemics, during which about 70 percent to 90 percent of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years and older.
Though the 2009 flu pandemic primarily affected children and young and middle-aged adults, the impact of the (H1N1)pdm09 virus on the global population during the first year was less severe than that of previous pandemics. Estimates of pandemic influenza mortality ranged from 0.03 percent of the world’s population during the 1968 H3N2 pandemic to 1 percent to 3 percent of the world’s population during the 1918 H1N1 pandemic. It is estimated that 0.001 percent to 0.007 percent of the world’s population died of respiratory complications associated with (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first 12 months the virus circulated.
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Yes we all have to deal with your stupidity. Just another day on ET.
thanks Obama
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...from-caution-to-major-economic-plan-for-virus
Trump decided to take coronavirus more seriously after watching Fox News coverage of stock market crash
As Air Force One sped toward Washington on Monday, the historic impact of the coronavirus outbreak became inescapable for President Donald Trump.
Televisions on his plane were tuned to Fox News, which broadcast dire graphics illustrating the single worst day for stock markets since the 2008 financial crisis. Matt Gaetz, a Florida GOP congressman who had accompanied Trump to a series of fundraising events in Orlando, had isolated himself in an empty cabin on the jet after learning he’d had contact with someone infected by the virus at a political conference.
By the time Trump touched down, he had decided he should take action, according to three people familiar with the matter. He would abandon the cautious, business-as-usual approach he had hoped would calm Wall Street jitters and instead pursue a broader economic stimulus to reassure investors, aiming to avert an election-year recession that could doom his presidency.
The coronavirus has presented the most severe threat to the U.S. economy since Trump entered office, endangering his single best argument for a second term: that he has made Americans more prosperous. But the president and his top economic advisers were slow to acknowledge the risk, instead assuring the public for weeks that the outbreak was contained. As the virus spread throughout America last week and financial markets shuddered, that message became unsustainable.
Traders are still waiting to hear Trump’s plan. After promising to reveal details on Tuesday, he didn’t show up at a White House coronavirus briefing, leading to a sell-off in U.S. equity futures heading into Wednesday. Aides insisted that Trump is committed to rolling out a plan, even if its substance and timing are unclear.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...us-numbers-we-really-should-be-worried-about/
This is the coronavirus math that has experts so worried: Running out of ventilators, hospital beds
For weeks now, America’s leaders and its public have been obsessed with one set of numbers: How many people have died? How many confirmed cases? And in what states?
But to understand why experts are so alarmed and what may be coming next, the public needs to start paying attention to a whole other set of numbers: How many ventilators do we have in this country? How many hospital beds? How many doctors and nurses? And most importantly, how many sick people can they all treat at the same time?
Consider the ventilators
For those severely ill with a respiratory disease such as covid-19, ventilators are a matter of life or death because they allow patients to breathe when they cannot on their own.
In a report last month, the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins estimated the United States has a total of 160,000 ventilators available for patient care (with at least an additional 8,900 in the national stockpile).
A planning study run by the federal government in 2005 estimated that if the United States were struck with a moderate pandemic like the 1957 influenza, the country would need more than 64,000 ventilators. If we were struck with a severe pandemic like the 1918 Spanish flu, we would need more than 740,000 ventilators — many times more than are available.
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The math on hospital beds isn’t any better
The United States has roughly 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 people. South Korea, which has seen success mitigating its large outbreak, has more than 12 hospital beds per 1,000 people. China, where hospitals in Hubei were quickly overrun, has 4.3 beds per 1,000 people. Italy, a developed country with a reasonably decent health system, has seen its hospitals overwhelmed and has 3.2 beds per 1,000 people.
The United States has an estimated 924,100 hospital beds, according to a 2018 American Hospital Association survey, but many are already occupied by patients at any one time. And the United States has 46,800 to 64,000 medical intensive-care unit (ICU) beds, according to the AHA. (There are an additional 51,000 ICU beds specialized for cardiology, pediatrics, neonatal, burn patients and others.)
A moderate pandemic would mean 1 million people needing hospitalization and 200,000 needing intensive care, according to a Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security report last month. A severe pandemic would mean 9.6 million hospitalizations and 2.9 million people needing intensive care.
Now, factor in how stretched-thin U.S. hospitals already are during a normal, coronavirus-free week handling usual illnesses: patients with cancer and chronic diseases, those walking in with blunt-force trauma, suicide attempts and assaults. It’s easy to see why experts are warning that if the pandemic spreads too widely, clinicians could be forced to ration care and choose which patients to save.
Important to remember that #Covid-19 epidemic control measures may only delay cases, not prevent. However, this helps limit surge and gives hospitals time to prepare and manage. It's the difference between finding an ICU bed & ventilator or being treated in the parking lot tent. pic.twitter.com/VOyfBcLMus
— Drew Harris (@drewaharris) February 28, 2020
No one knows how bad it will be
This is where we need to say that no one knows how bad this is going to get. But, as many experts have pointed out, that is part of the problem.
“The problem with forecasting is you have to know where you are before you know where you’re going and because of the problems with testing, we’re only starting to know where we are,” said Caitlin Rivers, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.
The speed at which the number of U.S. cases is rising hints we are headed in a bad direction.
But because so much is still unknown, exactly how bad could range widely. It will depend largely on two things: The number of Americans who end up getting infected and the virus’s still-unknown lethality (its case-fatality rate).
One forecast, developed by former CDC director Tom Frieden, found that infections and deaths in the United States could range widely. In a worst-case scenario, but one that is not implausible, half the U.S. population would get infected and more than 1 million people would die. But his model’s results varied widely from 327 deaths (best case) to 1,635,000 (worst case) over the next two or three years.
This is why experts have been yelling so much about testing, social distancing and hand washing
“Slowing it down matters because it prevents the health service becoming overburdened,” said Bill Hanage, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. “We have a limited number of beds; we have a limited number of ventilators; we have a limited number of all the things that are part of supportive care that the most severely affected people will require.”
The sooner you interrupt the virus’s chain of transmission, experts say, the more you limit its climb toward exponential growth. It’s similar to the compounding interest behind all those mottos about invest when you’re young. Early action can have profound effects.
That math is also why so many health officials, epidemiologists and experts have expressed frustration, anger and alarm over how slowly the United States as a country has moved and is still moving to prepare for the virus and to blunt its spread.
This post has been updated to include more recent numbers on U.S. hospital beds from the American Hospital Association, including the number of specialty intensive care beds available.
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Funny how you compared 6k worldwide covid deaths to 13k US deaths when 5 minutes later you made a post mentioning the world wide swine flu deaths were actually 575,400.
You will literally lie and mislead to further your parties agenda. You know you're the baddie, right? Have some realization.
laces brought up the 600,000 million infected globally first
And then he mentioned specifically US cases. He didn't try to conflate like you.