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Ventura County Pivots in Face of Lawsuit, Orders Gun Stores Reopened


Ventura County, California, pivoted on Friday, just days before a hearing was to be held on a request for a preliminary against the county’s decision to close gun stores during the coronavirus shutdown.

The case, McDougall v. County of Ventura, was brought by Donald McDougall and Juliana Garcia, as well as the Second Amendment Foundation, the California Gun Rights Foundation, and the Firearms Policy Coalition.

The plaintiffs’ attorney Ronda N. Baldwin-Kennedy reacted to Ventura County’s decision to open gun stores:

The defendants were obviously wrong on the law and had no constitutional support for their frivolous arguments, so it makes sense for them to change course now. We are delighted that this lawsuit moved the County to issue another order so that our clients and the people of Ventura County can exercise their constitutional rights.

The plaintiffs’ co-counsel attorney Raymond DiGuiseppe said:

The facts are that the Ventura County defendants made it a crime for individuals to patronize and operate firearm and ammunition retailers, and worse, these government officials banned travel for firearms and ammunition as “non-essential”. Those are precisely the kinds of actions our Constitution was designed to protect against, so we look forward to the next phase of litigation in this lawsuit.

Second Amendment Foundation founder and executive vice president Alan Gottlieb commented, saying, “This legal action was and remains about winning firearms
freedom one lawsuit at a time. The county choosing to re-open firearm and ammunition transactions rather than face our motion in court is a victory for gun owners and the Second Amendment.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...n-face-of-lawsuit-orders-gun-stores-reopened/


The case is McDougall v. County of Ventura, No. 2:20-cv-02927-CBM in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California.
 
Can you imagine some people think the govt can declare an emergency and take away Constitutional Rights without data and facts to support their actions?

If that is true... then as someone said... these rights are not rights they are permissions.

We need to have some guidelines for the next pandemic or emergency.
The Sup Ct needs to pull these cases up and ensure they are well briefed, well argued and well considered by the Court.

In my opinion this is the time we need our rights the most.
In my opinion there is govt overreach everywhere. For the govt to be doing this at the very least they should be sharing the data to prove this virus is really a threat to low risk groups.

right now... it is not much worse than the flu... if at all to people without certain pre existing issues.

If the govt wants to infringe upon our rights, laws should be passed by the legislature and the laws should be narrowly tailored based on data to accomplish their goals.

Gov... Newsome is a moron and his edicts do not fit the situation.
We go shopping at Walmart and Costco... but not sit down at the beach?

Our kids can't do sports even though the data I have seen says this is like a flu for kids?

So anyway... at least the fascists in Ventura had to back down.
 
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In 1942, the Takei family was forced to live in the converted horse stables of Santa Anita Park before being sent to the Rohwer War Relocation Center for internment in Rohwer, Arkansas. ... Upon graduation from high school, Takei enrolled in the University of California, Berkeley, where he studied architecture.

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In 1942, the Takei family was forced to live in the converted horse stables of Santa Anita Park before being sent to the Rohwer War Relocation Center for internment in Rohwer, Arkansas. ... Upon graduation from high school, Takei enrolled in the University of California, Berkeley, where he studied architecture.

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"I didn't spend my childhood in barbed wire enclosed internment camps"

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Bugenhagen said:
In 1942, the Takei family was forced to live in the converted horse stables of Santa Anita Park before being sent to the Rohwer War Relocation Center for internment in Rohwer, Arkansas. ... Upon graduation from high school, Takei enrolled in the University of California, Berkeley, where he studied architecture.

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Maybe that explains his odd sexual choices. Probably was raped by fellow Japanese Americans while in captivity?
 
Members of this Court are not public health experts, and we should respect the judgment of those with special expertise and responsibility in this area. But even in a pandemic, the Constitution cannot be put away and forgotten.


The U.S. Supreme Court granted an against New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s restrictions on religious services in a 5-4 decision.
 
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