Conservative Mind Set & Conspiracy Theories

We are ~314 million and Switzerland ~8 million. So if we scale the 50K Swiss figure up we would be at about 1.96 million drug arrests in the U.S. But I don't think the Swiss make arrests for marijuana possession, just trafficking, whereas in the U.S., drug arrests for using pot are going to dominate the statistics -- so we have to separate those out somehow.

from:
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...one-marijuana-arrest-every-42-seconds-in-2012

i found this:
Data released Monday by the Federal Bureau of Investigation show there were an estimated 1,552,432 arrests for drug-related crimes in 2012 – a slight uptick from the 1,531,251 drug arrests in 2011. Marijuana offenses accounted for 48.3 percent of all drug arrests, a slight reduction from 49.5 percent in 2011, which itself was the highest rate since before 1995.

Most marijuana-related arrests were for possession of the drug. By mere possession, there was one marijuana arrest every 48 seconds in 2012. Including arrests for distribution, there was a pot-related arrest every 42 seconds, the same interval as in 2011.


So if we take .483 x 1.55 x 10<sup>6</sup> from 1.55 x 10<sup>6</sup> we get only 806K arrests for other than pot, or 806K/(314 x 10<sup>6</sup>) = 0.00257 per capita, i.e., 2.6 arrests for other than pot possession (OTP) per thousand. That seems pretty low in comparison with the Swiss per capita number of 50K/(8 x 10<sup>6</sup>) = 0.00625, i.e, 6 arrests per thousand for OTP (assumed).

Looks like either Swiss are arresting for pot possession (I don't think they do) or they have a lot more hard drug users per capita, or they are very efficient at making arrests. Something doesn't seem right. Maybe someone can check this data out from other sources. (Maybe the clue is in the FBI word "estimated".)

So if these numbers are to be believed, than Switzerland has a greater per capita OTP drug use rate, but yet a far far lower crime rate than the U.S. If that is really true, then we need to figure out exactly what they are doing and copy it to the "T".

(will someone please check my arithmetic!)

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N.B. I got the 50K figure for drug possession arrests in Switzerland from gwb-trading's post above and I am assuming that the Swiss do not arrest for smaller quantities of marijuana possession.
 
We seem to go through this ever week or so, when pie or some other liberal starts extrapolating from european or canadian statistics to the effect of if only we had socialized this or that, we would be so much better. If only we had a total gun ban, etc etc

The point is, these countries, particularly Switzerland, have vastly different populations than we do. Switzerland doesn't have a black urban underclass. They don't have 20 million illegal immigrants, most of whom are poor, uneducated and with large families who need enormous amounts of taxpayer-funded assistance. They didn't let in a huge group of somali muslims, who have repaid our humanitarian gesture by doing little but causing trouble.

If we are going to emulate Switzerland, let's start with their immigration policy. Hint: they take it seriously, very seriously. Of course, liberals want no part of that.
 
AAA, you been to Toronto lately and taken a ride on mass transit? Toronto has a huge immigrant population! Crime rate miniscule compared to U.S.
 
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We seem to go through this ever week or so, when pie or some other liberal starts extrapolating from european or canadian statistics to the effect of if only we had socialized this or that, we would be so much better. If only we had a total gun ban, etc etc

The point is, these countries, particularly Switzerland, have vastly different populations than we do. Switzerland doesn't have a black urban underclass. They don't have 20 million illegal immigrants, most of whom are poor, uneducated and with large families who need enormous amounts of taxpayer-funded assistance. They didn't let in a huge group of somali muslims, who have repaid our humanitarian gesture by doing little but causing trouble.

If we are going to emulate Switzerland, let's start with their immigration policy. Hint: they take it seriously, very seriously. Of course, liberals want no part of that.
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Damn AAA, you just shot down pie hole's entire pontification.
 
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Canada's quite a bit more diverse than the US, but has a strong cultural value of tolerance.
 
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Fact check time Lil Ricky


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Sharyl Attkisson revealed on Monday's CBS Evening News that the Obama administration had prior knowledge of HealthCare.gov's numerous security flaws, but went ahead anyway with its October 1, 2013 launch. Attkisson spotlighted a government memo that outlined "important security risks discovered in the insurance system....The memo said, 'The threat and risk potential to the system is limitless'."

The correspondent also obtained a partial transcript of a closed-door congressional hearing, where HealthCare.gov's project manager claimed that he was unaware of this memo, and that he "testified he'd been told the opposite" about the website's security risks.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz2kSTILayE
 
ricter... how could you make such a mistake.
i was just reading canada has so many white people they consider non british and french dissent to be considered non visible minorities. in other words... german and italian people are considered... non visible minorities.

now I can tell you for sure... over the last generation or two... non visible minorities from germany, russia and italy have melted into the melting pot pretty successfully in the U.S. (diversity is the problem... melting pot was and is the solution.)

For instance even here in San Diego, my haircut guy is from russia and at least 3 of clients of mine have been named max and they all had jobs and two had pretty strong accents.
and some of the dads I meet at kids soccer games are from russia.
My wife is even a non visible minority as her parents were from Holland. That makes my kids minorities under the law in Canada? maybe.




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