Conservative Mind Set & Conspiracy Theories
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just like on every other subject... you refuse to let facts enter into your thought process.
Obamacare was passed by all democrats and some legistlative tricks.... not a single republican.
They could have made it single payer as kucinich and hundreds of the dem legislators wanted.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamasdeal/view/
To navigate the process of health reform, President Obama turned to his chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, a consummate deal maker, who helped stock the West Wing with an all-star lineup of congressional insiders. But almost immediately, a key member of the team was forced to step down, and the country's greatest champion of health reform, Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), was sidelined with incurable brain cancer. The administration's hopes for reform rested with Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the powerful head of the Senate Finance Committee, who also happened to be one of the Senate's top recipients of special interest money from the health care industry.
The White House encouraged Baucus to quietly negotiate deals with the insurance lobby, drug companies and other special interest groups, despite promises to run a different kind of White House. "The president said that having people at the table is better than having them throw stuff at the table," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer tells FRONTLINE.
But the deals were often controversial. FRONTLINE investigates how, near the start of the health care reform process, Baucus and the White House negotiated a secret $80 billion deal with Billy Tauzin, the former Louisiana congressman who had become the pharmaceutical industry's top lobbyist.
"People who thought that the pharmaceutical industry was still reaping profits that were excessive were unhappy with that deal and were particularly unhappy that it got cut behind closed doors," says the co-chair of Obama's transition team, John Podesta.
The pact with Tauzin was only the beginning of a series of deals designed to win over potential opponents. The most notorious agreement, known as the "Cornhusker Kickback," was concluded only days before a vote on the health care bill in the Senate. In exchange for the support of Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), the White House and Senate leaders agreed to spend $100 million to benefit Nebraska.
The administration argued the deals were necessary to secure health reform. But the deals backfired. "It's not a pretty process," says David Gergen, who's been an adviser to four different presidents, both Republican and Democratic, over the last several decades. "There is deal making -- that's the way it's been done for a long time. But those deals done in your front parlor can be pretty smelly. The public was already up to here with what they were seeing in Washington, and I think it just put them over the side."
The backlash grew across the country. The president's approval ratings sunk, the Democrats lost control of Ted Kennedy's Senate seat, and the push for health care reform was suddenly in peril.
"The grassroots of America had turned against this," Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) tells FRONTLINE. "Health care was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back."
At the White House, the president was forced to come to terms with what looked to be his most significant failure as president, before a last push this winter -- and a last round of high-stakes, round-the-clock deal making -- finally pushed the bill through.
"The process was messy, and so it turned people off," says Communications Director Pfeiffer. "It ended up being behind closed doors. It was filled with partisan wrangling, people yelling at each other across the table. We ended up having a process that represented a lot of what the American people hated about Washington."
"There is a realism that it has come with a cost," veteran Washington Post reporter Dan Balz observes. "We don't know what's going to happen in the November elections. We don't know what's going to happen in 2012. But there's no question that this health care battle has put his party at risk. And how they deal with that is the next chapter. But this was a historic moment."
Obamacare was passed by all democrats and some legistlative tricks.... not a single republican.
They could have made it single payer as kucinich and hundreds of the dem legislators wanted.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamasdeal/view/
To navigate the process of health reform, President Obama turned to his chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, a consummate deal maker, who helped stock the West Wing with an all-star lineup of congressional insiders. But almost immediately, a key member of the team was forced to step down, and the country's greatest champion of health reform, Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), was sidelined with incurable brain cancer. The administration's hopes for reform rested with Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the powerful head of the Senate Finance Committee, who also happened to be one of the Senate's top recipients of special interest money from the health care industry.
The White House encouraged Baucus to quietly negotiate deals with the insurance lobby, drug companies and other special interest groups, despite promises to run a different kind of White House. "The president said that having people at the table is better than having them throw stuff at the table," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer tells FRONTLINE.
But the deals were often controversial. FRONTLINE investigates how, near the start of the health care reform process, Baucus and the White House negotiated a secret $80 billion deal with Billy Tauzin, the former Louisiana congressman who had become the pharmaceutical industry's top lobbyist.
"People who thought that the pharmaceutical industry was still reaping profits that were excessive were unhappy with that deal and were particularly unhappy that it got cut behind closed doors," says the co-chair of Obama's transition team, John Podesta.
The pact with Tauzin was only the beginning of a series of deals designed to win over potential opponents. The most notorious agreement, known as the "Cornhusker Kickback," was concluded only days before a vote on the health care bill in the Senate. In exchange for the support of Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), the White House and Senate leaders agreed to spend $100 million to benefit Nebraska.
The administration argued the deals were necessary to secure health reform. But the deals backfired. "It's not a pretty process," says David Gergen, who's been an adviser to four different presidents, both Republican and Democratic, over the last several decades. "There is deal making -- that's the way it's been done for a long time. But those deals done in your front parlor can be pretty smelly. The public was already up to here with what they were seeing in Washington, and I think it just put them over the side."
The backlash grew across the country. The president's approval ratings sunk, the Democrats lost control of Ted Kennedy's Senate seat, and the push for health care reform was suddenly in peril.
"The grassroots of America had turned against this," Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) tells FRONTLINE. "Health care was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back."
At the White House, the president was forced to come to terms with what looked to be his most significant failure as president, before a last push this winter -- and a last round of high-stakes, round-the-clock deal making -- finally pushed the bill through.
"The process was messy, and so it turned people off," says Communications Director Pfeiffer. "It ended up being behind closed doors. It was filled with partisan wrangling, people yelling at each other across the table. We ended up having a process that represented a lot of what the American people hated about Washington."
"There is a realism that it has come with a cost," veteran Washington Post reporter Dan Balz observes. "We don't know what's going to happen in the November elections. We don't know what's going to happen in 2012. But there's no question that this health care battle has put his party at risk. And how they deal with that is the next chapter. But this was a historic moment."
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thanks for pointing that out max, comment sections are just about always more entertaining than the article they're based on. how fucked up are these people? These dogs would have been better off with mike vick than this maniac.
The best is going to the comment section on a negative article about obama care on a liberal site and watch them try to put lipstick on that pig, they really are drinking the koolaid.
The last time Alec Baldwin went on a homophobic rant, he was rewarded with his own television show on MSNBC.
What will be his reward after this most recent one reported by TMZ Thursday
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Alec Baldwin is a sore winner ... chasing down and threatening a photographer outside his Manhattan apartment ... just hours after a courtroom victory this morning in his stalker case ... and the whole thing was captured on video.
The video shows Baldwin -- who was with his wife and baby -- taking off in angry pursuit after the pap (not ours) ... yelling, cursing and calling him a "c**ksucking f*g."
As NewsBusters reported in June, Baldwin went on a homophobic rant against a British reporter calling him a "toxic little queen."
With few exceptions, the mainstream media either turned their backs on these comments or dismissed them.
Not only didn't Capital One end its relationship with Baldwin, the actor subsequently was given his own program at MSNBC.
At the same time the Food Channel's Paula Deen was getting booted from hers and losing all of her sponsors as a result of racial slurs she made decades ago.
As such, one wonders what Baldwin's reward will be for this rant.
Maybe rather than just a Friday evening show MSNBC will give him a daily program in prime time.
Stay tuned.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...-another-vulgar-homophobic-rant#ixzz2kjB9rWY2
What will be his reward after this most recent one reported by TMZ Thursday
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Ah2oLU9YAu4?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Alec Baldwin is a sore winner ... chasing down and threatening a photographer outside his Manhattan apartment ... just hours after a courtroom victory this morning in his stalker case ... and the whole thing was captured on video.
The video shows Baldwin -- who was with his wife and baby -- taking off in angry pursuit after the pap (not ours) ... yelling, cursing and calling him a "c**ksucking f*g."
As NewsBusters reported in June, Baldwin went on a homophobic rant against a British reporter calling him a "toxic little queen."
With few exceptions, the mainstream media either turned their backs on these comments or dismissed them.
Not only didn't Capital One end its relationship with Baldwin, the actor subsequently was given his own program at MSNBC.
At the same time the Food Channel's Paula Deen was getting booted from hers and losing all of her sponsors as a result of racial slurs she made decades ago.
As such, one wonders what Baldwin's reward will be for this rant.
Maybe rather than just a Friday evening show MSNBC will give him a daily program in prime time.
Stay tuned.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...-another-vulgar-homophobic-rant#ixzz2kjB9rWY2
Alec Baldwin really is a total POS. One day he is going to threaten the wrong guy and get his pussy ass handed to him.
I wouldn't do business with Capital One if they paid my card bill every month for me.
It's perfect example of the media/PC double standard. A guy like Rush Limbaugh is "too controversial" for ESPN or the NFL, but Baldwin is fine. Keith Olbermann, a hate-filled toxic waste dump a mental case, is back on ESPN. Ironically, Paula Dean supported Obama, but she is southern and not named Clinton, so she was toast.
I wouldn't do business with Capital One if they paid my card bill every month for me.
It's perfect example of the media/PC double standard. A guy like Rush Limbaugh is "too controversial" for ESPN or the NFL, but Baldwin is fine. Keith Olbermann, a hate-filled toxic waste dump a mental case, is back on ESPN. Ironically, Paula Dean supported Obama, but she is southern and not named Clinton, so she was toast.
I think his political view are frequently dumb and wrong.
I could care less about him calling someone a fag.
fag and gay are not the same thing so the only people objecting to the word are fags.
I think he is pretty entertaining... that is how many real new yorkers are. that is the core of new york. Its why I left. but, I still find it entertaining.
I am sure many new yorkers think that if these baldwin wants to be a tough guy and the photographers want to protect themselves... they should be able to punch each other out... under the law.
I could care less about him calling someone a fag.
fag and gay are not the same thing so the only people objecting to the word are fags.
I think he is pretty entertaining... that is how many real new yorkers are. that is the core of new york. Its why I left. but, I still find it entertaining.
I am sure many new yorkers think that if these baldwin wants to be a tough guy and the photographers want to protect themselves... they should be able to punch each other out... under the law.
Alec Baldwin picked the wrong reporter to mess with.
After an altercation with the actor Friday, the New York Post's Kevin Fasick - a former professional boxer - officially challenged Baldwin to a boxing match with proceeds going to the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation...
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz2kq8nDa3S
After an altercation with the actor Friday, the New York Post's Kevin Fasick - a former professional boxer - officially challenged Baldwin to a boxing match with proceeds going to the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation...
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz2kq8nDa3S
A Los Angelos teacher at Miramonte Elementary has plead no contest to 23 charges related to molesting 30 children by blindfolding them and spoon feeding the children his semen. Mark Berndt, 63, was a teacher at the school for 30 years and is to be sentenced to 25 years in prison. Miramonte Elementary serves a poor, predominately Hispanic neighborhood, more than half of its approximately 1,400 students are still learning English. Berndt photographed the children he blindfolded and fed them his semen on a spoon or cookies topped with semen, Berndt told the children they were playing âtasting gamesâ. Despite the multiple complaints filed against Berndt while he was a teacher, it was not the school who brought this incident to light, instead a photo technician at drug store saw dozens of photos of blindfolded school children so he called local authorities. Berndtâs victims are undergoing therapy, some have severe eating and social disorders since the incident occured. Dozens of lawsuits and claims have been filed on behalf of victims, 63 cases have been settled for a total of $29.5 million and 71 are pending.
Are teachers unions and public schools great or what?
Are teachers unions and public schools great or what?