Conservative Campaign Promises - How can you NOT vote for this guy?!

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Kassz007:

$2 per vote for starters. Subsidies for the arts. Many of the government run healthcare initiatives. Not to mention the fact that every new government programs also creates a slew of bureacracy in the name of "this oversight committee" and "the whatchamacall it panel", etc...

I'm not sure I agree on the first two items you mentioned and, in any event, I'm not sure they qualify as meaningful chunks in the grand scheme of things. But let's table them. More importantly, to which government-run healthcare initiatives do you take exception?

As an aside, I note that you have a dim view of oversight committees. And so, while you don't like wasteful spending, you don't hold oversight in high regard. Fascinating.

 

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Kassz007:

You couldn't be more wrong. I consider myself fiscally conservative and socially center. My reluctance to pay for the mistakes of others has nothing to do with "extremism".

Your earlier remark, alluding to communism, betrays a different viewpoint. One that is decidedly more black-and-white. Only the outer reaches of any given viewpoint lack depth or complexity, i.e., balance.

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from Gabfly1:

I'm not sure I agree on the first two items you mentioned and, in any event, I'm not sure they qualify as meaningful chunks in the grand scheme of things. But let's table them. More importantly, to which government-run healthcare initiatives do you take exception?

As an aside, I note that you have a dim view of oversight committees. And so, while you don't like wasteful spending, you don't hold oversight in high regard. Fascinating.

They are buy two examples in a long line of similar government programs. I take exception with the entire healthcare system in general, not any specific program. As I said, a two-tier system would be ideal. Healthcare for all, plus advanced service for those willing to pay for it. Are you trying to hint at the fact that government run healthcare is adequately efficient?

You love to put words in my mouth, generalize, and you even think you can read my mind! I never said I don't hold oversight in high regard. Oversight is 100% necessary when it comes to government spending. My whole point, which is completely going over your head, is that these "oversight", "planning", "whatchamacallit boards", would not be necessary if the government hadn't felt the need to spend the money in the first place!

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from Gabfly1:

Your earlier remark, alluding to communism, betrays a different viewpoint. One that is decidedly more black-and-white. Only the outer reaches of any given viewpoint lack depth or complexity, i.e., balance.

I never brought up communism. Referencing a communist with socialist ideology does not equate to calling someone a communist.

Again, I am not sure why you insist on giving the government more of your money. Do you honestly believe they spend your money better than you spend your own money?

 

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Kassz007:

I never brought up communism. Referencing a communist with socialist ideology does not equate to calling someone a communist...

No, but the allusion sufficed.

 

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Kassz007:

...You love to put words in my mouth, generalize, and you even think you can read my mind!

Not exactly. You speak in broad, sweeping generalities and then don't accept the attribution when you are called on it.

I think we've both had enough of this exchange. I know I have.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

So you don't believe in cooperation.

Why am I not surprised.

Quote from Kassz007:



Do you read this before you posted? This sounds like something directly out of a Stalin speech!

"Each according to their means and ability, for the collective good of society!"

Fuck that bullshit. I work for myself, not some freeloading socialist that produces half the amount I produce.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Where is this free market that you imagine to exist?

Quote from Kassz007:

That is the fault of the government, not the corporation. The free market dictates that the contract goes to the lowest bidder. If the corporation wastes its resources, it goes bankrupt. That's at least how it SHOULD work, as long as the government doesn't use my tax dollars to clean up someone elses mess.

Your post sounds more like an argument against government corruption than corporate greed.