Conservative Campaign Promises - How can you NOT vote for this guy?!

[Hello]

Quote from Gabfly1:

To balance the budget and to pay off the national debt, which was exacerbated by unnecessary corporate tax cuts that DEMONSTRABLY DID NOT PAY FOR THEMSELVES.

If deficits are your problem, surely you must hate Obama....

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

"What products or services do you think the government needs to provide that the private sector cannot? This is not a loaded question, I am genuinly interested in what you think."

The government has an ethical mandate to protect the citizens from the production of goods and services in the private sector which threaten the well being of the people.

Part of the common defense principle, providing a common defense for all citizens from threats foreign and domestic, is defending citizens from companies who will ignore safety and reasonable well being of the workers.

It is a fact that corporations treat workers like a commodity, labor for them is just a price they have to pay for corporate profits, and the corporations will nearly always do whatever they can get away with to increase profit, even if it means reduces safety and quality of life of the workers, or the people who purchase the goods and services from the corporations.

Watchdog and regulation on industry, which does not provide watchdog and regulation on themselves.

The free market goons will argue that the market itself will regulate itself, but facts paint the real picture.

Without regulation, you have nothing but greed run amok, trampling the well being of those who are not in a position to change the way business is done.

I agree that a certain amount of regulation is necessary. But too much can uneccesarily stifle efficiency.

Again, relating back to corporate tax rates and their effect on the economy, do you not think that the Canadian government has adequate resources to provide adequate regulation? Can they not afford to reduce some of the tax burden on companies to pay for this regulation? Or are they extorting for other purposes?

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from Grandluxe:

talking abt Canadian politics is like talking abt NZ politics.

Who cares.

Canadians care. Please stop trolling. We are trying to keep this thread as civil as possible. There are plenty of other threads that welcome trolls.

 

[Hello]

The government is clearly spending all of their money in the most efficient way possible, otherwise how would they afford the healthcare system whereby people take a year to get an MRI?

Quote from Kassz007:

I agree that a certain amount of regulation is necessary. But too much can uneccesarily stifle efficiency.

Again, relating back to corporate tax rates and their effect on the economy, do you not think that the Canadian government has adequate resources to provide adequate regulation? Can they not afford to reduce some of the tax burden on companies to pay for this regulation? Or are they extorting for other purposes? [color]

 

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Hello:

If deficits are your problem, surely you must hate Obama....

Because he inherited an exploding bag of shit, the likes of which had not been seen in generations? Because he tries his level best to right an enormously difficult and complex situation despite the fact that the very people who perpetrated it are impeding him at every turn? The situation that the Right had ignored at first, when they were in power, and are now regarding it in the most simplistic and naive of terms? No, I have a lot of respect for Obama.

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from Gabfly1:

To balance the budget and to pay off the national debt, which was exacerbated by unnecessary corporate tax cuts that DEMONSTRABLY DID NOT PAY FOR THEMSELVES.

Umm no. The current level debt is due to the stimulus spending. The stimulus spending that the Liberals and NDP insisted the Conservatives spend.

What do you make of the fact that the deficit is projected to be eliminated in a couple of years? And that's factoring in the corporate tax cuts.

 

[Hello]

LOL, so i guess the Obama solution to an "Exploding Bag of shit" Is to throw twice as much feces at it.....

Obama wasnt responsible for the U.S. deficit, but Harper is responsible for the Canadian Deficit, sound reasonable in the land of left wing lollypops.

Why dont you do some math and show me all the places where Harper has spent more money in order to increase the deficit?

Quote from Gabfly1:

Because he inherited an exploding bag of shit, the likes of which had not been seen in generations? Because he tries his level best to right a situation despite the fact that the very people who perpetrated it are impeding him at every turn? I have a lot of respect for Obama.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

You agree that government has to do the job the private sector won't do, i.e. protect the well being of the workers .

No, I don't think the government has adequate resources to protect the workers for the corporations.

Quote from Kassz007:

I agree that a certain amount of regulation is necessary. But too much can uneccesarily stifle efficiency.

Again, relating back to corporate tax rates and their effect on the economy, do you not think that the Canadian government has adequate resources to provide adequate regulation? Can they not afford to reduce some of the tax burden on companies to pay for this regulation? Or are they extorting for other purposes?

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

You agree that government has to do the job the private sector won't do, i.e. protect the well being of the workers .

No, I don't think the government has adequate resources to protect the workers for the corporations.

So you would like to see the government extort more money from citizens? Because that's what it is. Government to citizens:

"Pay up more of your hard earned cash, or else we'll allow the big bad corporations to get you!"

 

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Hello:

LOL, so i guess the Obama solution to an "Exploding Bag of shit" Is to throw twice as much feces at it.....

Obama wasnt responsible for the U.S. deficit, but Harper is responsible for the Canadian Deficit, sound reasonable in the land of left wing lollypops.

Why dont you do some math and show me all the places where Harper has spent more money in order to increase the deficit?

W didn't just leave the WH with the largest deficit and national debt up until that point, he also left Obama with an imploding economy. Major financial institutions as well as automakers were on the brink. The list goes on. Maybe you're the kind of guy who likes to watch car crashes, but Obama did what most experts believed was required in order to avert a catastrophe. Meanwhile, the Right wants it both ways.

Obama inherited a deficit. Harper inherited a surplus budget, whereupon he almost immediately started fiddling with taxes even though there was no indication yet of economic weakening at that time. There was still the matter of the national debt, mind you.