Congressman Issa: "Carney Is A Paid Liar"

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from bigarrow:

Check out NYC stop and frisk policy. This is targeted towards black men and is going on now.

I'm sure it's working to curb crime but do we really want to live in a society that does that? I certainly don't.

 

[Max E.]

Do you realize that the people within the IRS who did the audits have already admitted to ISSA that they were told by their superiors to target conservative groups, and also that a couple of them have said the orders came from washington?

Apparently some of these people even knew what they were doing was wrong, and they requested to be transferred out of the division.

Issa has the transcripts and will be releasing all of them he said once the investigation is over.

Basically with that information out there, you are simply burying your head in the sand when you say you dont know if they targeted conservative groups.

Quote from piezoe:

My main point was this, and it seems it slipped through the cracks. Re the recent applications that have not yet been approved, we don't know anything except what the applicants themselves have decided to release, and obviously they are not going to release a bunch of ridiculous statements that they may, or may not have , made to the IRS about their relative mix of Social Welfare and political activity. If there are other groups that applied at the same time, they may just be standing by silent. The applications are not considered to be in the public domain until approved. That's IRS policy, and that's what may have got one or two IRS employees in a bit of hot water. Propublica has already said that the IRS released copies of a few (they said how many, but i can't remember) applications they should not have.

We are dependent on the applicants themselves for information. And in this case the applicants are plaintiffs. So naturally you are going to be fed, quite intentionally, a picture rather favorable to the plaintiff. That's my point here, pspr. It would be prudent not to jump to conclusions before both sides weigh in. We have very little from the IRS at this point. They are being named as a defendant in a lawsuit, so don't expect much. The hearing has been a joke so far, and has simply served as a platform for political grandstanding against the reviled IRS.

I like to hear from both sides in a conflict before making up my mind. And one of those sides is not the media, it's the IRS. And the IRS is saying as little as they can get away with..

 

[denner]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Do you realize that the people within the IRS who did the audits have already admitted to ISSA that they were told by their superiors to target conservative groups, and also that a couple of them have said the orders came from washington?

Apparently some of these people even knew what they were doing was wrong, and they requested to be transferred out of the division.

Issa has the transcripts and will be releasing all of them he said once the investigation is over.

Basically with that information out there, you are simply burying your head in the sand when you say you dont know if they targeted conservative groups.

Piezoe is a more articulate version of AK47. Same "support the narrative at all costs" mentality cloaked in alot of diversion and misdirection.

 

[denner]

Quote from bigarrow:

Check out NYC stop and frisk policy. This is targeted towards black men and is going on now.

I'm guessing that you would support frisking geriatrics and Asian foreign exchange students just to make it well known that you weren't doing any "racial profiling".

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from piezoe:



I like to hear from both sides in a conflict before making up my mind.

Yes, CNN and MSNBC.

 

[wjk]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Yes, CNN and MSNBC.

LOL.

Regarding the IRS. I remember the auditing that conservatives endured during the previous democrat admin (Clinton). I also remember many from this admin from the top down making statements that the Tea Party was a threat to democracy. There is your motivation right there. I'm sure there are plenty of self-starters who love Obama so much that they would gladly risk their career with potential illegal activity without orders from above. I don't buy it, however. As indicated, the hatred of the tea party and conservatives is one thing that IS transparent all the way to the prez.

Piezoe is more thoughtful and articulate than most liberals here, but I believe he is defending the indefensible. Now we find out about all these secret e mail accounts in the most transparent admin in history (sarc). Wed find out more about solicitations regarding HC with Sibelius. We still don't have Benghazi facts straightened out. We have issues with a fox news reporter targeted (AP, to a lesser extent). We still have Fast and Furious. And the list is growing.

I suggest Piezoe recall the amount of rhetoric from this admin toward his domestic political enemies over the course of his term and add that to his thought process and research, even though it's likely he agreed with the rhetoric as many other lefties here in ET did.

As far as the prez not knowing anything about all these scandals; if he really didn't know they were going on, than he is proving that he was never qualified for the job to begin with. Personally, I think he is a master of plausible deniability.

 

[pspr]

Quote from denner:

Piezoe is a more articulate version of AK47. Same "support the narrative at all costs" mentality cloaked in alot of diversion and misdirection.

While that is partially true, I find you can get more out of his flatulent writing style if you only read every 3rd or 4th word.

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from Lucrum:

It's not unlike trying to defend the wicked witch of the east.

This should be a major hint that liberals really are nut cases. If the IRS under a republican admin targeted libtard groups, people would have been fired by dozen, and many would face jail.

 

[pspr]

Quote from LEAPup:

This should be a major hint that liberals really are nut cases. If the IRS under a republican admin targeted libtard groups, people would have been fired by dozen, and many would face jail.

They definitely don't have a grasp on reality and believe government is the solution to man's every trouble. Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from pspr:

They definitely don't have a grasp on reality and believe government is the solution to man's every trouble. Nothing could be further from the truth.

That's why they're mentally ill. EVERYONE knows the government fucks up EVERYTHING they touch. Yet, these libs are in love with big gubment. Simple mental illness, period.