Companies Engage In Orgy Of Virtue Signaling

[Tsing Tao]

Tsing Tao, my dear pal, unlike you I take a fair amount of risk in the market every day. I am not a better or gambler. Guess what. Most of my bonuses and savings are stashed away in money market funds.

Of course the American warrior in you will now respond "you weakling, I am waiting with my weapons and battle gear prepared and you are chickening out". Your kind always loves to make it known to the world what a grandiose poser you are.

So no bet, eh? Just talk, no action. Ah well, exposed for the coward you are once again.

How can you presume to know what risk I take and what I do every day?

 

[Nine_Ender]

You are trying to make the case that health care determines life expectancy. All I'm saying is that it's one factor. The fact that Canadian life expectancy is greater than that of Americans doesn't mean that Canadian healthcare is great. Slow down for a moment and try to think that through.

That's awesome. 50,000 or so Canadians do not agree.

Uh, no, you are the one making unsubstantiated claims made on random news articles. What I presented was hard facts; Canadians live longer and pay less for health care. The nuances of cause and effect aren't important to my point. You cannot claim you get better quality care based on what you presented, but you led off with that anyways. You are guessing. I never claimed we got better quality care for specific procedures ( which would be another guess ), I just claim that all things being considered ( % insured, cost, quality, availability, wait times, ... ), our system grades better then yours according to objective sources. And my own personal experience suggests the same in a limited sample. I do know a friend who needed hip surgery, seriously considered the US, but his wait time lessened and he got it done in Canada for "free". He easily had the money after making a killing on selling his home.

50,000 who chose care outside of Canada doesn't say they rejected our system at all. What it says is they chose to get one item done elsewhere. And roughly 99% of such procedures were done in Canada regardless. That's a very strong number, stronger then I expected actually.

Now you are of course free to pay far more money then me and get the care you enjoy and believe in. Many Americans aren't agreeing with you. Occasionally, people on here post Canadians grumbling about our system; it's mostly superficial stuff.

 

[Zzzz1]

Simple, you are present in every single P&R chat, round the clock, always. Either you are retired, unemployed or hog some admin manager desk in some sorry corporation where you clock out around 4 or 5pm each day,and where you are apparently posting here during your work hours,assuming again of course you even hold a job.

So no bet, eh? Just talk, no action. Ah well, exposed for the coward you are once again.

How can you presume to know what risk I take and what I do every day?

 

[Zzzz1]

Can I ask you one simple question? I highly respect your posts and thought process and you don't lose temper as I do here. Here goes: have you ever witnessed in 19000 posts that Tsing Tao ever admitted having been incorrect or wrong or that he concedes a point to someone with more plausible arguments? To anyone I mean? If not is my assumption correct you investing your time not to change Tsingtao's mind but to share for the benefit of the broader public?

Uh, no, you are the one making unsubstantiated claims made on random news articles. What I presented was hard facts; Canadians live longer and pay less for health care. The nuances of cause and effect aren't important to my point. You cannot claim you get better quality care based on what you presented, but you led off with that anyways. You are guessing. I never claimed we got better quality care for specific procedures ( which would be another guess ), I just claim that all things being considered ( % insured, cost, quality, availability, wait times, ... ), our system grades better then yours according to objective sources. And my own personal experience suggests the same in a limited sample. I do know a friend who needed hip surgery, seriously considered the US, but his wait time lessened and he got it done in Canada for "free". He easily had the money after making a killing on selling his home.

50,000 who chose care outside of Canada doesn't say they rejected our system at all. What it says is they chose to get one item done elsewhere. And roughly 99% of such procedures were done in Canada regardless. That's a very strong number, stronger then I expected actually.

Now you are of course free to pay far more money then me and get the care you enjoy and believe in. Many Americans aren't agreeing with you. Occasionally, people on here post Canadians grumbling about our system; it's mostly superficial stuff.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Uh, no, you are the one making unsubstantiated claims made on random news articles.

Random news articles. Hmm...

What I presented was hard facts; Canadians live longer and pay less for health care. The nuances of cause and effect aren't important to my point.

Ok, then don't insinuate that medical care quality is the distinction driving life expectancy in Canada vs. the United States.

You cannot claim you get better quality care based on what you presented, but you led off with that anyways. You are guessing.

Why can't I? It's been shown that Canadians come south for medical procedures. Americans don't go north as far as I know. Unless, of course, you have data showing that.

I never claimed we got better quality care for specific procedures ( which would be another guess ), I just claim that all things being considered ( % insured, cost, quality, availability, wait times, ... ), our system grades better then yours according to objective sources.

And I agreed with you. The fact that ours sucks and yours sucks less doesn't speak to a good medical system.

And my own personal experience suggests the same in a limited sample. I do know a friend who needed hip surgery, seriously considered the US, but his wait time lessened and he got it done in Canada for "free". He easily had the money after making a killing on selling his home.

50,000 who chose care outside of Canada doesn't say they rejected our system at all. What it says is they chose to get one item done elsewhere. And roughly 99% of such procedures were done in Canada regardless. That's a very strong number, stronger then I expected actually.

Now you are of course free to pay far more money then me and get the care you enjoy and believe in. Many Americans aren't agreeing with you. Occasionally, people on here post Canadians grumbling about our system; it's mostly superficial stuff.

I don't prefer to pay more money than you, but that's the way our system works. I do, however, get seen immediately if I need something done and don't have to wait.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Simple, you are present in every single P&R chat, round the clock, always. Either you are retired, unemployed or hog some admin manager desk in some sorry corporation where you clock out around 4 or 5pm each day,and where you are apparently posting here during your work hours,assuming again of course you even hold a job.

Then why don't you take my bet if that is the case? Should be an easy win for you. Come on, bro.

 

[W.J. Feathermaker III]

Then why don't you take my bet if that is the case? Should be an easy win for you. Come on, bro.

I'd wager Volpunter has made more posts than you since he joined. This guy is such an unhinged loon.

 

[Zzzz1]

I am not your bro, but you may call me mate.

Then why don't you take my bet if that is the case? Should be an easy win for you. Come on, bro.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I am not your bro, but you may call me mate.

So, no bet?

 

[Zzzz1]

That opinion of course depends on whether you stand on the left or brown side. And what's your problem. It's entertainment and releasing stress. Feels much better than taking nazi morons seriously and trying to counter lies.

I'd wager Volpunter has made more posts than you since he joined. This guy is such an unhinged loon.