Coming to terms with my feelings. Long, sorry.

Please don't tell me you advocate nuking states of Americans no matter what their political view.
Technically The Confederacy were no longer American states or Americans and they killed 500,000 US troops to keep humans as slaves.Many current day republicans still love them.
 
Technically The Confederacy were no longer American states or Americans and they killed 500,000 US troops to keep humans as slaves.Many current day republicans still love them.

Define many. If you were to truly poll republicans , and I mean accurately, do you really believe that more than, say, 10% of them would actually support the actions of the Confederacy and slavery?
 
Thanks. I do wish this thread would die and stay dead. You've changed a lot, as have I (I got more extreme, hehe.)

I don't think you've gotten more extreme at all. Quite the contrary. More focused. There are always issues that press our buttons, and I think your focus on the ecological impact of man is an extremely important one. You and I sparred a lot back in the day, but I like to think we are old adversaries, but still old friends. And we've found our common ground over the years.

As for why the thread keeps popping up, you'd have to ask Cuddles. He's where you and I were probably 15 years ago. But if it leads to good dialogue, bring it! :)
 
Define many. If you were to truly poll republicans , and I mean accurately, do you really believe that more than, say, 10% of them would actually support the actions of the Confederacy and slavery?

The 2022 presidential election had 159 million voters, largest turnout in US history.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/2020-election-numbers


Of that number, ~475 cases of voter fraud.

https://thehill.com/homenews/presid...an-475-cases-of-potential-voter-fraud-in-six/


Voting fraud is 0.000298742138% or 2/10,000th of a percent.


Currently 148 voting interference laws are on the books pushed forward by GOP dominated state legislatures;

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-may-2022


Yes, the data would suggest that a majority of the GOP support disenfranchising minority rights.

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This is the basis of Make America Great Again - MAGA wants a return to this era.

The GOP's attempt to appeal to this base is not disputed.

As Mary Trump has insightfully proclaimed;

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The 2022 presidential election had 159 million voters, largest turnout in US history.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/2020-election-numbers


Of that number, ~475 cases of voter fraud.

https://thehill.com/homenews/presid...an-475-cases-of-potential-voter-fraud-in-six/


Currently 148 voting interference laws are on the books;

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-may-2022


Yes, the data would suggest that a majority of the GOP support disenfranchising minority rights.

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This is the basis of Make America Great Again - MAGA wants a return to this era.

The GOP's attempt to appeal to this base is not disputed.

As Mary Trump has insightfully proclaimed;

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Oh, come on now. This is silly.

I support voter ID laws. Does that mean, according to you, I support the confederacy and therefore slavery as well?
 
Oh, come on now. This is silly.

I support voter ID laws. Does that mean, according to you, I support the confederacy and therefore slavery as well?

No, it just means that you have not looked into the issue deeply nor confronted GOP led gerrymandering. Other's would probably call it being a "useful idiot."

I'm not calling you that but the data is the data however you want to non-confront it or discount it. If you can find fault in the links I provided I'm all ears.

I support increasing Voting Rights Integrity, but GOP in on the books for not supporting it yet proclaim that they do.
 
No, it just means that you have not looked into the issue deeply nor confronted GOP led gerrymandering. Other's would probably call it being a "useful idiot."

I'm not calling you that but the data is the data however you want to non-confront it or discount it. If you can find fault in the links I provided I'm all ears.

I support increasing Voting Rights Integrity, but GOP in on the books for not supporting it yet proclaim that they do.

There's a lot here. First, I can assure you I've looked quite deeply into the issue. Second, there are lots of cases of Democrat gerrymandering. Are those OK with you?

Democrats say that requiring an ID to vote disenfranchises minorities. But they have no problem with all the other things that require an ID disenfranchising minorities (assuming it even does, which I don't agree with). There have been numerous examples where people have gone to the streets in NYC or Philly, or Chicago and asked minorities if they believe they are at a disadvantage to vote if it required an ID. They almost always say no. Its just white liberals who claim that.

If blacks and hispanics suddenly started voting GOP, the ID issue would fade into obscurity.
 
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