Comey the Clown: Lock him up!!

WeToddDid2 said:
Should have reasonably known is exactly how it works.

There are WRITTEN GUIDELINES. It is not in an OCA's sole discretion.
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First, show me ANY source to prove that Comey released the CLASSIFIED memos, you don't even know that and are already speculating what he should have known.


WeToddDid2 said:
Your argument is that an OCA has no legal obligation to classify and that the classification system is in the sole discretion of the OCAs?
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Yes, most classifications except the ones specificied by Congress are discretionary


"Although most classification decisions are discretionary, Congress has required the classification of certain types of nuclear information. "

https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/classified-information-what-you-need-know
 
exGOPer said:
Sure

(3) Basis for liability.

A party to the SF 312, SF 189, or SF 189-A may be liable for disclosing "classified information" only if he or she knows or reasonably should know that: (i) the marked or unmarked information is classified, or meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination; and (ii) his or her action will result, or reasonably could result in the unauthorized disclosure of that information. In no instance may a party to the SF 312, SF 189 or SF 189-A be liable for violating its nondisclosure provisions by disclosing information when, at the time of the disclosure, there is no basis to suggest, other than pure speculation, that the information is classified or in the process of a classification determination.

http://www.archives.gov/isoo/training/standard-form-312.html
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Thank you. That perfectly makes my argument.

A party to the SF 312, SF 189, or SF 189-A may be liable for disclosing "classified information" only if he or she knows or reasonably should know that: (i) the marked or unmarked information is classified, or meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination; and (ii) his or her action will result, or reasonably could result in the unauthorized disclosure of that information. In no instance may a party to the SF 312, SF 189 or SF 189-A be liable for violating its nondisclosure provisions by disclosing information when, at the time of the disclosure, there is no basis to suggest, other than pure speculation, that the information is classified or in the process of a classification determination.
 
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WeToddDid2 said:
Thank you. That perfectly makes my argument.

A party to the SF 312, SF 189, or SF 189-A may be liable for disclosing "classified information" only if he or she knows or reasonably should know that: (i) the marked or unmarked information is classified, or meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination; and (ii) his or her action will result, or reasonably could result in the unauthorized disclosure of that information. In no instance may a party to the SF 312, SF 189 or SF 189-A be liable for violating its nondisclosure provisions by disclosing information when, at the time of the disclosure, there is no basis to suggest, other than pure speculation, that the information is classified or in the process of a classification determination.
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It would make your argument IF you can even prove that Comey leaked the classified memos in the first place, he said he had BOTH classified and unclassified memos and he leaked the unclassified one, so where is your source that he leaked the classified memo?
 
exGOPer said:
First, show me ANY source to prove that Comey released the CLASSIFIED memos, you don't even know that and are already speculating what he should have known.




Yes, most classifications except the ones specificied by Congress are discretionary


"Although most classification decisions are discretionary, Congress has required the classification of certain types of nuclear information. "

https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/classified-information-what-you-need-know
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Are you easily confused? You continually put words in my mouth. I never stated or speculated that Comey should have known.

Show me the post in which I stated Comey should have reasonably known.

I am simply making an argument about OCAs in general.
 
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It would make your argument IF you can even prove that Comey leaked the classified memos in the first place, he said he had BOTH classified and unclassified memos and he leaked the unclassified one, so where is your source that he leaked the classified memo?
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I never stated that he leaked classified memos.
 
exGOPer said:
It would make your argument IF you can even prove that Comey leaked the classified memos in the first place, he said he had BOTH classified and unclassified memos and he leaked the unclassified one, so where is your source that he leaked the classified memo?
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Again, I have been arguing about OCAs in general. So, my argument is valid and you were wrong. Thank you.

That is what I meant by a retarded argument in a previous post.

You continually put words in my mouth and twist what I say. I have to nonstop argue are point out that I didn't state xyz. Is that your tactic?
 
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WeToddDid2 said:
Are you easily confused? You continually put words in my mouth. I never stated or speculated that Comey should have known.

Show me the post in which I stated Comey should have reasonably known.

I am simply making an argument about OCAs in general.
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You made the argument by IGNORING the AND part

"is in the process of a classification determination"

Information that an OCA has already determined to be classified or unclassified is NOT in the process of a classification determination.

Executive Order 13526 clearly states

>Classified information does not include unclassified information that may be subject to possible classification at some future date, but is not currently in the process of a classification determination.

There is NO liability for information that's already determined to be unclassified by an OCA.
 
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