Collective2

They can ask for a refund and they will get it. Go read the vendor agreement so you can give an accurate opinion instead of just an "opinion".

Quote from Pekelo:
if the system doesnt perform anymore, subscribers will demand a refund from C2 though,

In your dream. There is no moneyback guarantee based on system underperformance. Also, let's say the system lost you a thousand bucks and you worry about the 50 dollars subscription fee?
 
I know there was a pay for performance option in the past (you only paid the monthly subscription fee if a performance target was reached), I haven't visited the site much recently so I don't know if that is still a subscription option.
 
A friend of mine offered a system on collective2 and got MANY chargebacks, and his was a profitable system. People would sign up, take the signals, and then cancel and demand a refund.

It is why it takes 90-days to receive the fees from clients. The owner of C2 makes sure the chargeback deadline is past.
 
Quote from Pekelo:

Sir, you clearly know shit about how C2 operate, so let's just treat your post what it is, speculation, and correct the missconceptions.

Quote from crash n burn:

systems charging $50 per mo might get up to 100 subscribers.

Systems charging that low are generally not worthy to subscribe to, although nice guesswork. But anyhow...

if the system doesnt perform anymore, subscribers will demand a refund from C2 though,

In your dream. There is no moneyback guarantee based on system underperformance.

thus, it doesnt make any sense at all.

..and still, the website has been in business for 8 years now. It must be a miracle! :)




the information i posted is factual and i have proof. i.e. the money back is offered upon case-by-case analysis. in many cases if not all, C2 agrees to return the money to avoid litigation. they are crossing several lines with the service and last thing they want is disgruntled customers yelling about it in courts.

the website is in business for 8 years mostly because of poor wannabes keep paying the listing fee to fulfill their outlandish dreams.

and C2 has been for most of its existence a one-man show. a guy that has good programming skills, that's it. it has ben a cash cow for him, thats for sure, considering the amount of wannabes like yourself that think will attain public recognition through it.
 
Quote from munnyhunny:

They can ask for a refund and they will get it. Go read the vendor agreement so you can give an accurate opinion instead of just an "opinion".

OK, here it is:

"Refunds and exceptional charges. If your subscriber is unhappy and demands a refund of fees paid to us on your behalf, or if an unhappy customer calls his bank and as a result we are charged a special fee - called a "chargeback" in credit card jargon - then we will remove that fee ......"

So I was kind of incorrect, they can and will refund for ANY reason. I said not for underperformance.
 
Quote from crash n burn:

the information i posted is factual and i have proof. i.e. the money back is offered upon case-by-case analysis. in many cases if not all, C2 agrees to return the money to avoid litigation. they are crossing several lines with the service and last thing they want is disgruntled customers yelling about it in courts.

the website is in business for 8 years mostly because of poor wannabes keep paying the listing fee to fulfill their outlandish dreams.

and C2 has been for most of its existence a one-man show. a guy that has good programming skills, that's it. it has ben a cash cow for him, thats for sure, considering the amount of wannabes like yourself that think will attain public recognition through it.

My buddy says he earned $7,800, net of C2 fees, over 2.2 years of running his system. Certainly not worth the aggravation. His system was in the top 5 for the entire period to give you an idea of the potential, if any.
 
Quote from stock piker:

My buddy says he earned $7,800, net of C2 fees, over 2.2 years of running his system. Certainly not worth the aggravation. His system was in the top 5 for the entire period to give you an idea of the potential, if any.

which system? "Top 5" is a very subjective concept. It depends on the system metrics, which markets, etc.

Frankly, almost all systems there are not worth anything - starry eyed paper traders who think their 6 month worthless backtest will generate $50,000 in subscription fees
 
Quote from TraderZones:

which system? "Top 5" is a very subjective concept. It depends on the system metrics, which markets, etc.

Frankly, almost all systems there are not worth anything - starry eyed paper traders who think their 6 month worthless backtest will generate $50,000 in subscription fees

Your system would definitely fall into the "worthless" category.
 
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