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Quote from Gordon Gekko:


aph, i said death for humans and ants is the same. meaning, whatever an ant experiences after death is what i will experience. obviously, i know the difference between an ant and a human.


being young isn't the issue. i guarantee you i will not change my beliefs when i'm dying. when i know i'm dying, i will be thinking these thoughts:

-i'm just an animal on planet earth, like any other animal.
-every animal has its time when it dies.
-i will not be thinking "why me?" stuff. or "why now?" there may be a cause for why i'm dying, but i will not think there is some grand reason why it's happening to me.
-i realize that life does not have to be fair. nothing says i have to live a long life. nothing says i can't die a minute from now. things just are the way they are.
-death is only bad while i'm alive to worry about it. once it happens, it's over with. i will not miss being alive when i'm dead.

i could go on and on..

here's a great quote katrina johns put in the immortality thread:

"In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference." - richard dawkins
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When you reincarnate as an ant, perhaps then you might see the difference.
 
Quote from aphexcoil:

However, are you still going to be giving a worm/ant/human ontological argument against the existence of god when you are in your death bed hacking up bits and pieces of blood?



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This usually makes a believer out of most....
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

When you reincarnate as an ant, perhaps then you might see the difference.
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why would i believe in reincarnation? why would i believe in something that has absolutely no foundation what-so-ever? as far as i'm concerned, you have just thrown out a baseless speculation. none of us know for sure what death will bring. it annoys the hell out of me when religious people act like they know.

imo, there is only ONE bit of evidence to suggest what death is like AND IT SUPPORTS MY CASE -- NOT YOURS!

all you have to do is ask yourself what your existence was like 10,000 years ago. pretty blank isn't it? it was NOTHINGNESS wasn't it? can you recall floating in the clouds or being in a hot hell with satan? of course not..because the only concept with any credibility AT ALL is that death is like pre-birth; nothingness. BUT YOU JUST CAN'T ACCEPT THAT, CAN YOU? so you need to turn to religion for some bs to make you feel better.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:



How can I argue with non sequitur posts?
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You make them by ignoring a question, so I presumed you would know how to respond. Obviously I am not to be disabused in that respect.

oops.... I see I have lost all interest in chidish playground word bites.

You obviously don't have better things to do or believe in. I am happy in the knowledge that I do and have.

I shall therefore leave you to it. You have a lot to do.
 
Quote from stu:



You make them by ignoring a question, so I presumed you would know how to respond. Obviously I am not to be disabused in that respect.

oops.... I see I have lost all interest in chidish playground word bites.

You obviously don't have better things to do or belive in. I am happy in the knowledge that I do and have.

I shall therefore leave you to it. You have a lot to do.
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Whatever.
 
Quote from Gordon Gekko:


why would i believe in reincarnation? why would i believe in something that has absolutely no foundation what-so-ever? as far as i'm concerned, you have just thrown out a baseless speculation. none of us know for sure what death will bring. it annoys the hell out of me when religious people act like they know.

imo, there is only ONE bit of evidence to suggest what death is like AND IT SUPPORTS MY CASE -- NOT YOURS!

all you have to do is ask yourself what your existence was like 10,000 years ago. pretty blank isn't it? it was NOTHINGNESS wasn't it? can you recall floating in the clouds or being in a hot hell with satan? of course not..because the only concept with any credibility AT ALL is that death is like pre-birth; nothingness. BUT YOU JUST CAN'T ACCEPT THAT, CAN YOU? so you need to turn to religion for some bs to make you feel better.
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It is your lack of evidence, not mine that is the source of your conclusions.

A practice of religion might help you tolerate the religious people you have trouble with.
 
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It is your lack of evidence, not mine that is the source of your conclusions.
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what am i supposed to do with that? give me some evidence then to support your case. otherwise, what you say is just baseless speculation and nothing else.
 
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