Climate Change... its the sun... again.
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The Temperature at Which Global Warming Freezes
"To believe in Global Warming while stamping the snow off your boots is not a matter of science. It is a matter of faith. The scientist sees what is, while the believer has faith in what he cannot see. The scientist does not see Global Warming in a blizzard.
The Warmist does. To see Global Warming while walking through a blizzard, is itself an act of faith.
Every winter, Global Warming advocates stake their bets on a mild winter. And every winter the snow and ice break their cars and shoes, but never their faith.
Last year the New York Times was predicting the end of snow. This year the New York Times building is snowlogged, but still keeping the faith....
...Global Warming is an ideological weapon by the environmentalists against human civilization. It is part of a broader anti-civilization agenda by the left, which values the natural world only because it sees it as a "primitive" antidote to the complexities of civilization."
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/01/temperature-global-warming-freezes/#FBxLL8q6Zt835Xs1.99
"To believe in Global Warming while stamping the snow off your boots is not a matter of science. It is a matter of faith. The scientist sees what is, while the believer has faith in what he cannot see. The scientist does not see Global Warming in a blizzard.
The Warmist does. To see Global Warming while walking through a blizzard, is itself an act of faith.
Every winter, Global Warming advocates stake their bets on a mild winter. And every winter the snow and ice break their cars and shoes, but never their faith.
Last year the New York Times was predicting the end of snow. This year the New York Times building is snowlogged, but still keeping the faith....
...Global Warming is an ideological weapon by the environmentalists against human civilization. It is part of a broader anti-civilization agenda by the left, which values the natural world only because it sees it as a "primitive" antidote to the complexities of civilization."
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/01/temperature-global-warming-freezes/#FBxLL8q6Zt835Xs1.99
Some interesting data discussed here showing that over time the reflected wavelengths of the GHGs has increased over the last several decades.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-co2-enhanced-greenhouse-effect.htm
As far as albedo, the decreasing and dirtier expanses of ice means more solar is being absorbed.
The picture seems to be less clear about clouds. I feel that unless there some catalyst to reduce temps and thereby increase clouds, clouds will not increase and therefor cannot help add albedo.
So yes, sulfur dioxide can be used to increase albedo and cool the planet. It actually can be done quite cheaply and easily. However, the penalty for getting it wrong could be just as bad as leaving things alone. Also, acidification is still a problem.
Oh now I found better look at the albedo thing.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/earth-albedo-effect.htm
http://www.skepticalscience.com/earth-albedo-effect.htm
its odd you pick that al gore funded site time after time.
its mostly specious conclusions being spewed by the author of the site.
for instance how can he conclude anything when he must admit science does not really understand the impact of clouds.
when we pick something from watts' site 80 to 90 percent of the time he summarizing a paper or its someone else's research he reposted on his site... sort of like an aggregator with a review.
its mostly specious conclusions being spewed by the author of the site.
for instance how can he conclude anything when he must admit science does not really understand the impact of clouds.
when we pick something from watts' site 80 to 90 percent of the time he summarizing a paper or its someone else's research he reposted on his site... sort of like an aggregator with a review.
the eco terrorist who sells a gas 2000 times more poweful than co2 is tired of those of us who post science?
that is good you greenhouse gas peddler.
that is good you greenhouse gas peddler.
Americans eat more than 624 million pounds of salmon a year, and about a third of it comes from the Pacific Ocean.
But will we (and our grandchildren) be fishing for or dishing up wild Pacific salmon in 50 years? How about 150 years? The answer depends on what we decide about climate change in the next few years.
A new study by a group of Canadian scientists, published in the journal Nature Climate Change, looks at how Pacific chinook salmon will fare as their streams become warmer in the next several decades.
On the upside, they found that young chinook showed the capacity to endure stream temperatures that were somewhat warmer than historic averages.
That means that climate change alone isn’t likely to cut off our supply of Pacific salmon steaks or sushi in the next few decades at least.
But they also found that there is just so much change that a salmon can stand: The chinook died in water temperatures above about 76 degrees Fahrenheit, which was about 7.2 degrees warmer than their natural river habitat.
Since climate change is set to warm most Pacific salmon streams of the U.S. and Canada at least that much in the next 100 to 150 years, “we need as a society to decide what is an acceptable level of risk, and come up with solutions,” said study coauthor Bryan Neff, a biologist at Western University in London, Ontario.
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But will we (and our grandchildren) be fishing for or dishing up wild Pacific salmon in 50 years? How about 150 years? The answer depends on what we decide about climate change in the next few years.
A new study by a group of Canadian scientists, published in the journal Nature Climate Change, looks at how Pacific chinook salmon will fare as their streams become warmer in the next several decades.
On the upside, they found that young chinook showed the capacity to endure stream temperatures that were somewhat warmer than historic averages.
That means that climate change alone isn’t likely to cut off our supply of Pacific salmon steaks or sushi in the next few decades at least.
But they also found that there is just so much change that a salmon can stand: The chinook died in water temperatures above about 76 degrees Fahrenheit, which was about 7.2 degrees warmer than their natural river habitat.
Since climate change is set to warm most Pacific salmon streams of the U.S. and Canada at least that much in the next 100 to 150 years, “we need as a society to decide what is an acceptable level of risk, and come up with solutions,” said study coauthor Bryan Neff, a biologist at Western University in London, Ontario.
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