CL Redux

Quote from NoDoji:

I don't recall ever seeing a draw like this on EIA.

Knowing CL, price will totally retrace the move up and make new lows on the bullish news :p

good call, made some money off that :D

probably gonna give it back now :mad:
 
Quote from Visaria:

good call, made some money off that :D

probably gonna give it back now :mad:

If the channel has another upside push in it, the UTL is well above 98.00 right now :cool:
 
I got some crude sim trading in today since real money equites were not that exciting. Basically to keep me from pressing buttons in a day when I was bored! lol

Trade 1---- long above 98.25 to resume uptrend, closed at .14, should have been closed at .18-.17 area. 2 x -12 ticks

trade 2---- short at 97,95 to continue downtrend, stopped at 98.02. 2x -8 ticks

trade 3, starting to gamble which is not good. short at 98.03, actually was green but it did not break down. closed at even.

trade 4----long at 98.12, green a little bit...but could not push higher, closed at 98.09, 2 x -3 ticks

trade 5--short 2 at 98.03, add 1 short at 97.94= 98 average. closed 2 at 97.79, and 1 at 97.80. 2x 21 ticks, 1x 19 ticks.


should have let the 1 contract ride back to .90 and look to add another below .85. But thats sort of after the fact trading.


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Quote from cmb:

I got some crude sim trading in today since real money equites were not that exciting. Basically to keep me from pressing buttons in a day when I was bored! lol

Trade 1---- long above 98.25 to resume uptrend, closed at .14, should have been closed at .18-.17 area. 2 x -12 ticks

trade 2---- short at 97,95 to continue downtrend, stopped at 98.02. 2x -8 ticks

trade 3, starting to gamble which is not good. short at 98.03, actually was green but it did not break down. closed at even.

trade 4----long at 98.12, green a little bit...but could not push higher, closed at 98.09, 2 x -3 ticks

trade 5--short 2 at 98.03, add 1 short at 97.94= 98 average. closed 2 at 97.79, and 1 at 97.80. 2x 21 ticks, 1x 19 ticks.

should have let the 1 contract ride back to .90 and look to add another below .85. But thats sort of after the fact trading.

You've got the right idea! Work on your entries, you're chasing a bit and CL's not forgiving in that regard if you're a scalper.
 
I was doing my best to stick to the trend following, I must admit...its not easy to take trades when your first 4 dont work and you are -45 ticks.

Also I should not have quit trading after I made it all back. another good entry at 97.70-.67 area at 12.15.


I'm not sure if I am a scalper or not, hence the reason I like 2 contracts. 15-20 tick target on the first...and let the second one go for 35-45 tick target, but those 2 contracts chew your PnL if you get the first 4 trades wrong.

Not sure if letting 1 contract for a larger target works enough to be worth it in the long term, ( will study those probabilities if I consider trading crude with real money)

And thanks again for continuing to post here NoDoji, you have taken some serious heat in the past, not sure if I would have stuck around!
 
Quote from riskaddict:

I did end up buying one at 2.06 sorry i didn't post the entry i was at target and i've been getting puked on by a 1 year old all morning. My plan is to sell it when we are at 98.50 on the front month so I guess that would put it around 2.55 to give the outright short time to work. Additionally if we get back below 97.30 for a bit I'll add another short contract but continue to hold the call because it isn't really hurting anything. Anything between here and there I'm just sitting here picking my nose and thinking about trying to short the euro again if we can touch the top of the channel.

This has taken forever. I didn't end up selling the 98 call until this morning for a whopping 2.24 and now I'm thinking about buying it back because we should drift up a little as we form the right shoulder on this hourly h&s top we a making.

Now that I think about it it seems like it would be more efficient to just exit the short now, wait for it to drift up then get short at a better price and then if if breaks the neck line add to the short. I'm proud that at no point throughout these 5 days I haven't added to the loser.
 

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Quote from cmb:

I'm not sure if I am a scalper or not, hence the reason I like 2 contracts. 15-20 tick target on the first...and let the second one go for 35-45 tick target, but those 2 contracts chew your PnL if you get the first 4 trades wrong.

This is why I'm all in/all out. I can't figure out how to make the R:R work well for me. I've even had detailed lessons (with full illustrations) from an ET-er regarding scaling/adding to winners and I wasn't comfy with it. I like to just ring the cash register often and cut the losses quickly :p
 
Quote from NoDoji:

This is why I'm all in/all out. I can't figure out how to make the R:R work well for me. I've even had detailed lessons (with full illustrations) from an ET-er regarding scaling/adding to winners and I wasn't comfy with it. I like to just ring the cash register often and cut the losses quickly :p


In equities I have a good money management system which allows me to trade at 40% wins sometimes and still make profits. lol so that naturally makes me want to scale out on crude...not sure if that is the best way.

right now its just for fun/practice because I rarely trade equities after 1130am. If I work on something else I dont get bored and do something dumb with the stocks.
 
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