Civil discourse on gun control

TomB corrected me on semiautomatics. It is only semiautomatics with a barrel length less then 18" that are restricted. So you can hunt to your hearts content with a semiautomatic rifle, but according to TomB the magazine or clip size is limited. I really do like canada's very sensible gun laws. We should go with them, but the U.S. needs more thorough background checks than in Canada, it seems. There are ways to do this without undue invasion of privacy.

But seriously, why hunt with a semiautomatic. What's the point? I don't think it is sporting to do so. But I'll defend your right to own and use it so long as it is not modified to be automatic and is restricted to a reasonable number of shots before reloading.

If we would all stop screaming and go at this calmly, most of us can agree on sensible regulation and control. Of course there are lunatics. We can't allow ourselves to be distracted by them. I'm convinced that the vast majority of the population, gun owners or not , can agree on sensible measures. Sorry gun lobby. The rest of America is about to move forward without you.

So you ignored my questions on specifics, again.

Let the record show that both people in this thread (Piezoe and Futurecurrents) who suggested some sort of federal buyback program and/or registration programs have no idea how to make these things happen and have ignored repeated requests for specifics behind these ideas. Thus, they are not solutions, they are concepts - but concepts that do not comply with reality.
 
Ive never owned a gun never shot a gun, hell i dont even think ive touched a gun. Generally i have tended to come down on the side of less regulation, but its more based on philisophical ideals than the 2nd amendment. People like me (I should throw in a disclaimer im canadian) but people like me are the ones the left are trying to sway........ i was somewhat sympathetic to the cause before tonight, but then i see this shameless display from CNN, where they invite people from the right into a townhall just to get booed, and the morons on the left dont even let them get their point out.

If the left really wants to make significant changes out of this they should avoid trying to turn it into shit like this, I found myself feeling sorry for Dana Loesch and Lil' Marco, and i find both of them reprehensible.

This was such an organised hatchet job from CNN there is no thinking individual who would look at the lynch mob they formed and change their mind.

Atleast when Oprah did her piece for 60 minutes, she got a balanced panel, shit like this designed to sway opinion does nothing but dig peoples heels in.

When i see where the debate is going there is little doubt in my mind that both Canada and the United States will not exist as we know them, 100 years from now.......It will end up breaking into dozens of self governed states/provinces/countries that are independent of one another. I cant think of any time in history where the 2 sides were this diametrically opposed. When you look at what goes on from both sides, the differences are irreconcilable thx to the internet and the news "Ratings"

Oh and btw for the people who are feigning outrage at the thought that these kids are being coached by the left to behave like this...... Take a look at the only times in this video where the girl looks down to read her question, theres 2 times she does it, its the only 2 times she looks down to read something, both times its a written question, when she gets off the dialogue she has a pleasant conversation, but she comes back to the same scripted questions twice.

Watch the video at 0:33 and 4:01 both times she pulls up a fucking cue card to determine her question when outside of that it seemed like a decent conversation. Sorry but there is no one that unknowledgeable about a subjec who would ask a questions that specific twice, and they sure as hell wouldnt use the exact same size cheat sheet both times, thats news people passing the buck...... If you are that "passionate" about the question why would you need to read it twice in order to repeat it twice?

Ive made speeches at a couple weddings, and unfortunately a couple funerals, there isnt a single time i needed a cue card, i sure as hell didnt need one for the main point of my argument.

I can tell you my answer on both questions. I think Bumpstocks should be banned, and i think magazine size should be limited. Why is it that this girl just so happens to read exactly the question that has been rolling on the Chyron for 2 weeks, and she needed a Cue card to do it?


Bottom line, it doesnt matter what i think, half of the population will watch that video, and think that its a huge mainstream movement, the other half will think its bullshit, and neither side will agree.


Regarding the CNN broadcast - it's not surprising it was scripted as everything CNN does is to push a narrative:

 
Regarding the CNN broadcast - it's not surprising it was scripted as everything CNN does is to push a narrative:

Here's the thing. Of all the people who spoke at the town hall meeting, he is apparently the only one who complained about "scripted questions." No one else came forward, of all the other people who spoke, making any such claim. This young man was then quoted on just about every media source, especially those with an axe to grind. We also know that CNN is no stranger to retractions when they make a mistake or do something foolish. However,

UPDATE: CNN released the following statement Thursday morning:

CNN did not, and does not, script any questions for town hall meetings, ever.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...fter_denying_question_about_armed_guards.html

Hmm. Who to believe...
 
Here's the thing. Of all the people who spoke at the town hall meeting, he is apparently the only one who complained about "scripted questions." No one else came forward, of all the other people who spoke, making any such claim. This young man was then quoted on just about every media source, especially those with an axe to grind. We also know that CNN is no stranger to retractions when they make a mistake or do something foolish. However,

UPDATE: CNN released the following statement Thursday morning:

CNN did not, and does not, script any questions for town hall meetings, ever.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...fter_denying_question_about_armed_guards.html

Hmm. Who to believe...

I think between the young man and CNN, many of us know which has a history of being more false. That's just my perspective.
 
Here's the thing. Of all the people who spoke at the town hall meeting, he is apparently the only one who complained about "scripted questions." No one else came forward, of all the other people who spoke, making any such claim. This young man was then quoted on just about every media source, especially those with an axe to grind. We also know that CNN is no stranger to retractions when they make a mistake or do something foolish. However,

UPDATE: CNN released the following statement Thursday morning:

CNN did not, and does not, script any questions for town hall meetings, ever.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...fter_denying_question_about_armed_guards.html

Hmm. Who to believe...

This is a joke from CNN. They were caught scripting questions from North Carolina residents a town hall meetings for the 2016 election -- where the voters were given the questions they should ask rather than the questions they wanted to ask. CNN is full of shiat.
 
This is a joke from CNN. They were caught scripting questions from North Carolina residents a town hall meetings for the 2016 election -- where the voters were given the questions they should ask rather than the questions they wanted to ask. CNN is full of shiat.
Link?
 
I think between the young man and CNN, many of us know which has a history of being more false. That's just my perspective.
Really? No other person in the entire crowd said anything remotely supporting this guy, whom you know absolutely nothing about. And CNN would risk its credibility in so blatant and risky a manner? Why? Because there wasn't enough public outrage about guns already and they had to stoke the flames just to keep it going? Seriously?

Sure, you "weighed" the available facts and then drew the conclusion that suits you.
 
Oh and btw for the people who are feigning outrage at the thought that these kids are being coached by the left to behave like this...... Take a look at the only times in this video where the girl looks down to read her question, theres 2 times she does it, its the only 2 times she looks down to read something, both times its a written question, when she gets off the dialogue she has a pleasant conversation, but she comes back to the same scripted questions twice.

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Just kidding... stay armed, my friends!
 
Link?

Let's take a look at CNN's lengthy history of town hall plants and arranging scripted questions. The question part is usually done by emailing the questions the audience member will ask in advance and confirming they agree to stick with the designated question.


Was CNN Just Caught Trying to Fix Another Debate? Town Hall “Audience Member” Was Emailed Her Question in Advance
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/was-...er-was-emailed-her-question-in-advance_022017

CNN’s long history of allowing Democratic town-hall plants
https://nypost.com/2016/01/06/cnns-long-history-of-allowing-democratic-town-hall-plants/

WikiLeaks Email Shows How Corrupt CNN Scripted Debates/Town Halls To Benefit Hillary Clinton…
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...debatestown-halls-to-benefit-hillary-clinton/

This is the event where voters from South Carolina and North Carolina were given scripted questions from CNN to ask the candidates.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/13/politics/cnn-republican-town-halls-south-carolina/index.html
 
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