Chris Wallace smacks Jon Stewart right back

Quote from Lornz:

discontempt.

DIScontempt? I am discontent with that contemptuous remark... I think my wires have crossed, I fear I might have suffered from a stroke. If I do not post within the next few years hours, somebody PLEASE call an ambulance...
 
Quote from Maverick74:

There are far too many conspiracy theories here regarding the media. Look, there is no deliberate attempt by the right, or the left, to brainwash you or promote an agenda. The media is the sum total of it's parts. And those parts are individuals who went to journalism school and bring whatever bias and background they have to the table to deliver the news through their point of view. Take the tin foil hats off. The best advice I have is to not get your information all from one source. Problem solved. This is Jon Stewart's greatest flaw. His argument is that FOX is "different" because they present a different side to a story when in fact his argument should be for the viewer or reader to seek out all sides to an argument, both conservative and liberal.

I am not claiming that there is a grand conspiracy, I am merely stating that they are idiots!

However, one must be incredibly naive to assert that certain agendas are not being promoted. The fabric of society is corrupt, and the media industry is no different...
 
Quote from Maverick74:

There are far too many conspiracy theories here regarding the media. Look, there is no deliberate attempt by the right, or the left, to brainwash you or promote an agenda. The media is the sum total of it's parts. And those parts are individuals who went to journalism school and bring whatever bias and background they have to the table to deliver the news through their point of view. Take the tin foil hats off. The best advice I have is to not get your information all from one source. Problem solved. This is Jon Stewart's greatest flaw. His argument is that FOX is "different" because they present a different side to a story when in fact his argument should be for the viewer or reader to seek out all sides to an argument, both conservative and liberal.

You must not read the Washington Post or NY Times much. They relentlessly push their agenda, usually in supposed news reports rather than editorials.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

You must not read the Washington Post or NY Times much. They relentlessly push their agenda, usually in supposed news reports rather than editorials.

Yes, I do read them but listen to what I'm saying. It's not the NY Times specifically that is pushing the agenda, it's the individual writers at the NY Times pushing their agendas.

Look, we all know that most of the people in the media are liberal. So collectively as a group, they are extremely liberal. What I am saying is that just like with FOX News, there are no orders being sent down from up above telling these people what to say and write. They just happen to all be liberal!!!!! There is no conspiracy here. Same is true with FOX news or the Washington Times. There are no marching orders given by the Murdochs, etc. The conservative commentators on FOX happen to give a conservative point of view. Shocking!

What I have said before and what I will continue to say, is my beef is not in the point of view of FOX or MSNBC, but rather how they PRESENT that point of view.
 
Quote from bugscoe:

I'm not so sure about that...

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222711

Yes everyone knows Media Matters is a left wing moonbat operation. And this is my point. MSNBC has this group on 15 times a day spouting their BS about Fox News. Why don't they at the same time have a conservative commentator on to counter their argument. This is the point I've been trying to make to liberals on this damn forum for years. When I say Fox is more balanced, I don't mean in their point of view, but rather that they usually have someone from both sides of the aisle to call the other out on their bullshit. This almost never happens at MSNBC.
 
Quote from LEAPup:

I love seeing how angry these liberals really are. John Stewart was almost snarling.:D When you corner a liberal, they can't come back with any intelligence, or common sense; they come back with with anger. Guess they're pissed that the majority of America doesn't buy their bullshit anymore.:D

Just like umm... oh what's his name... oh yeah! Bill O'Reilly!
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Yes, I do read them but listen to what I'm saying. It's not the NY Times specifically that is pushing the agenda, it's the individual writers at the NY Times pushing their agendas.

Look, we all know that most of the people in the media are liberal. So collectively as a group, they are extremely liberal. What I am saying is that just like with FOX News, there are no orders being sent down from up above telling these people what to say and write. They just happen to all be liberal!!!!! There is no conspiracy here. Same is true with FOX news or the Washington Times. There are no marching orders given by the Murdochs, etc. The conservative commentators on FOX happen to give a conservative point of view. Shocking!

What I have said before and what I will continue to say, is my beef is not in the point of view of FOX or MSNBC, but rather how they PRESENT that point of view.

I was just kidding you, but I think it goes a lot deeper than just a bunch of journos who are predominately liberal. The NYT and WAshPost see themselves as progressive forces for change, nevermind that normal people see the change they want as bad for the country. Everything they do is evaluated through that paradigm. No one is going to be hired if they don't profess allegiance to the leftwing agenda.

Now I appreciate they have the First Amendment right to do that and push whatever propaganda line they want, but it's unrealistic to think it is not a corporate effort.
 
I watched the full interview, not the edited one.

I think Stewart knows who butters his bread and he plays to his audience.

A comedian's job is to point out absurdities and hypocrisy in a humorous way. To the extent that he does that successfully, he is popular.

Where the comedian draws his source material from is HIS choice.


The more important question is:

WHO IS THE CONSERVATIVE EQUIVALENT TO STEWART?

However I do agree with Stewart that Fox constantly makes the error that his show is equivalent to a "News" show. It's not. It's a freakin' comedy show!!

Stewart never asserts that he is Fair and Balanced.

And Chris Wallace admits in the full interview that Fox is not either. Instead, they present the "other side".

Fine. But don't sell yourself as "Fair and Balanced". Or "We report, you decide."

Notice that nobody else makes that claim. Why not?

What everyone should do is TURN OFF YOUR F'N TV - TURN ON YOUR F'N BRAIN AND THINK FOR YOURSELF.
 
I like Chris Wallace and I also like Jon Stewart, they both make good points and are usually enjoyable to watch. Here's Jon's response to the video that started this thread.


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