China gives Trump his piecemeal win

Pull back NATO to 1991 levels first and then only cry for Russia to join hands as a geopolitical ally. Doubt Russians would be stupid to trust the west so easily.

Chinese? a fake power, relying on demands from outside world using the slave labor production shops. If West goes into recession, China will sink into depression. Disgusting Commies spreading an exploitative model of use and abuse trade practices all round the world.

Fake power with the 400 tones of gold mining every year and 100 millions army.Okay
 
One of the smartest plays by China. They realized how US companies use 3rd world countries for sweat shop labor (look at Latin America) which suppresses any hope for those countries' domestic industries. The "forced" partnerships have allowed China to have a strong domestic industry albeit on really obsolete tech which is better than nothing.

China doesn't really care about the tech. being obsolete; China just wants ideas. China is good in a lot of things but one thing that China is not very good at is original creation, coming up with a completely new idea or concept out of thin air, something and one of the very few things that the West still has advantage over China because of its encouragement of freedom of expression over conformity. Once China's gotten their hands on the original technology, what they are very good at is adapting it and improving it to make it better. So they don't really care that it's obsolete, they can make it to be modern and up to date.
 
China doesn't really care about the tech. being obsolete; China just wants ideas. China is good in a lot of things but one thing that China is not very good at is original creation, coming up with a completely new idea or concept out of thin air, something and one of the very few things that the West still has advantage over China because of its encouragement of freedom of expression over conformity. Once China's gotten their hands on the original technology, what they are very good at is adapting it and improving it to make it better. So they don't really care that it's obsolete, they can make it to be modern and up to date.

Pretty much, you see brand new looking vehicles with 90's FI tech
 
Innovation and inventions are always based on R&D and a pool of scientific intellectuals. China has both. You don't really need to be very talented, but know what it takes in the R&D process is enough. Very very few people in the world are capable of thinking original ideas.

The West has a head start on R&D, but China is catching up soon. China spent 2% of their GDP on R&D last year, which was more than Europe but less than US. China graduates millions of scientists and engineers each year. Their education is very vigorous on match and science. At this point in time, I don't think China needs to copy other people’s ideas. Their own R&D and scientific minds will drive their technological advance forward. They are already pioneering in many fields like nanotechnology, quantum techs, genetics, etc.

Their export sector of GDP has shrunk to 20% from 40% couple years ago. They are focusing on developing their economy to a more consuming based rather than export based now. Majority of low-cost factories in China have already moved to countries like Vietnam and others.
 
They are focusing on developing their economy to a more consuming based rather than export based now. Majority of low-cost factories in China have already moved to countries like Vietnam and others.

Then they shouldn't have mind all the tariffs that Trump has added then let along retaliating with counter-tariff. So that was just a showing of Chinese nationalism to appease those Chinese rednecks?
 
Then they shouldn't have mind all the tariffs that Trump has added then let along retaliating with counter-tariff. So that was just a showing of Chinese nationalism to appease those Chinese rednecks?

20% of gdp is not insignificant, and retaliating on perceived unfairness is not only human nature, but 100% expected in a trade war.
 
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