China Economy

Quote from trefoil:

This kind of reply makes me seriously impatient.
I despise the OP with a passion. I think he/she/it is an ignorant ass.
However, the above is equally ignorant. You're quoting GDP at exchange rate equivalence, which in the case of China is just plain stupid.
At PPP (Purchasing Power Parity, for the unwashed) China's GDP comes in at - drum rolls puhleeze - 10.21 trillion, not too far behind the US, and comfortably ahead of Japan, allegedly the second largest economy on the planet.
Which is, to put it politely, pure, unadulterated bullshit.

Source: <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html">The CIA World Factbook</a>.

Use it. These bastids do know what they're doing. If Dubya had half the brain of the GEICO gecko, he would've let them finish Bin Laden. But that's another story entirely.

Purchasing parity means nothing. Their GDP is about the size of Californa and Florida combined.

John
 
If the US crashes and burns, it will be because the rest of the world does too. Scenarios in which the US crashes in relation to the rest of the world are fantasy. It will happen someday, just as someone watching the assassination of Julius Caesar could have extrapolated from that the fall of the Roman Empire.
Except that person would have waited hundreds of years to see it happen. Which, in relation to the time horizon of your investments, ain't relevant.
 
Quote from jficquette:

Purchasing parity means nothing. Their GDP is about the size of Californa and Florida combined.

John

Please explain. I'm truly interested in your explanation. (My previous was directed at TM, btw)
 
We're talking about severe contraction, not end of world, ie armageddon. I'm glad to have cleared that up for you.

Quote from trefoil:

If the US crashes and burns, it will be because the rest of the world does too. Scenarios in which the US crashes in relation to the rest of the world are fantasy. It will happen someday, just as someone watching the assassination of Julius Caesar could have extrapolated from that the fall of the Roman Empire.
Except that person would have waited hundreds of years to see it happen. Which, in relation to the time horizon of your investments, ain't relevant.
 
Man you're stupid.
Please explain how this doesn't amount to an economic version of Armageddon:

Indebted labor will rise from the ashes of the greatest credit bust in US history. People will literally be working just for food, water and shelter.

I'll wait 'til Hell freezes over.
 
Per capita is obviously not the same as the gross sum. Obviously.
And, all your article asserts is another obvious thing: PPP is an approximation. As is exchange rate parity, of course. However, if you have a currency that has been deliberately manipulated to an absurdly low level, as is the case with the remnimbi/yuan, then using PPP is going to be a much closer approximation of reality than using exchange rate parity.
The article cites Japan as an example of the opposite extreme, which is telling. The difference between exchange and purchasing power parity equivalents of GDP between the US and Japan is many times smaller than the difference between the US and China using the two different measures, because of the deliberate mercantilist policy followed by China.
 
The "empire" will continue in it's new form. No, oversized nose, that's not what an armageddon is. Will be far from it. In fact, the rich will get even richer.


Quote from trefoil:

Man you're stupid.
Please explain how this doesn't amount to an economic version of Armageddon:

Indebted labor will rise from the ashes of the greatest credit bust in US history. People will literally be working just for food, water and shelter.

I'll wait 'til Hell freezes over.
 
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