CARES Act Funding by hospital

[Tsing Tao]

See there you go again with no evidence. We can reexamine the Trump issues and all of his criminal friends. The proof is in the convictions and the soon coming pardons. Then there will be the post-presidency. Trump is “individual 1” in an indictment.

I have no problem with looking back at any of it. It’s tough to get all of crimes and criminals in Trumpworld right but there certainly are a lot of them.[/QUOTE]

Right. Its all about me having no evidence while you continue to point out Trump criminals with...wait for it...no evidence.

Now with Covid, you’re doubling down on crazy saying it’s a giant media conspiracy to get Trump on top of a nationwide fraud by hospitals to inflate Covid deaths. Come on. The top doctors appointed by Trump are telling you it’s not a media conspiracy! What more do you want?

This isn't at all what I said.

And I totally get there is harm in economic slowdowns and all policy is subject to critique but that’s what leadership looks like. It ain’t pretty making the tough calls and it’s easy to criticize people in leadership positions especially if you’ve never actually had to lead anything.

I will also say this, as far as leadership goes, It’s just as hard being a governor like DeSantis as it is being Cuomo. It’s not like governors aren’t following your policies you agree with. For example, in North Dakota 1 in 800 people are dead from Covid. That’s what you get from the types of policies you want.

 

[Tsing Tao]

It is annoying to see the lack of scientiific consenous on an issue that should be cut and dried. What ever happened to the “Scientific Method” and scientific reasoning? It seems science has become completely politicized as seen with the climate change debate, if smoking is bad for you, or what really causes heart disease.

As such, what can we do? The answer is to research the issues, weigh the evidence, draw our own conclusions, and take appropriate actions based on those conclusions. In short, we need to think for ourselves instead of relying on media sources that often has an agenda, whether it is politically related or sublety marketing a product.

We hold to the Scientific Method, and continue to point out the narratives by the people vested in those narratives. Eventually the facts will come out and we can throw it in their face. They don't think in terms of the long game. They only go from crisis to crisis.

 

[UsualName]

I have no problem with looking back at any of it. It’s tough to get all of crimes and criminals in Trumpworld right but there certainly are a lot of them.

Right. Its all about me having no evidence while you continue to point out Trump criminals with...wait for it...no evidence.



This isn't at all what I said.[/QUOTE]

There are 8 Trump associates from either his campaign or his transition team that have either been convicted of a felony or plead guilty to a felony related to the work they did on his campaign, in relation to his campaign or with his transition.

Trump himself was forced to dissolve his “charity“ and he and his children are barred from working in or starting a charity in NY state.

Trump is “individual 1” in the same indictment that Cohen was convicted for.

There is currently an open investigation into selling pardons.

What are you looking for in terms of evidence? The sentencing documents, the redacted complaints?

This isn’t difficult, Donald Trump is a crook and so are his friends and family.

 

[Tsing Tao]

There are 8 Trump associates from either his campaign or his transition team that have either been convicted of a felony or plead guilty to a felony related to the work they did on his campaign, in relation to his campaign or with his transition.

Trump himself was forced to dissolve his “charity“ and he and his children are barred from working in or starting a charity in NY state.

Trump is “individual 1” in the same indictment that Cohen was convicted for.

There is currently an open investigation into selling pardons.

What are you looking for in terms of evidence? The sentencing documents, the redacted complaints?

This isn’t difficult, Donald Trump is a crook and so are his friends and family.

Ah, you almost had it. You could have gone with everything up until the last sentence and you'd have had a point.

Then you went with Donald Trump is a crook, and proved the whole thing I was saying. You'll make a claim like that without evidence that the man has committed any crime. And that's fine. You can believe what you want. I'm not so sure I don't believe it myself. But there's no evidence of a crime committed.

You then turn around and say "you have no evidence that COVID cases were misrepresented" (I paraphrased to what I am claiming) so its automatically false.

You're a treasure trove of self contradictions and blind partisanship.

 

[UsualName]

Ah, you almost had it. You could have gone with everything up until the last sentence and you'd have had a point.

Then you went with Donald Trump is a crook, and proved the whole thing I was saying. You'll make a claim like that without evidence that the man has committed any crime. And that's fine. You can believe what you want. I'm not so sure I don't believe it myself. But there's no evidence of a crime committed.

You then turn around and say "you have no evidence that COVID cases were misrepresented" (I paraphrased to what I am claiming) so its automatically false.

You're a treasure trove of self contradictions and blind partisanship.

Donald Trump stole from his charity he is also named in an indictment- he is a crook.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Donald Trump stole from his charity he is also named in an indictment- he is a crook.

Ah, so he is being charged? Or set to be charged based on the evidence once out of the Presidency?

 

[newwurldmn]

It is annoying to see the lack of scientiific consenous on an issue that should be cut and dried. What ever happened to the “Scientific Method” and scientific reasoning? It seems science has become completely politicized as seen with the climate change debate, if smoking is bad for you, or what really causes heart disease.

one man is to blame.

that one man has you using “statistics” to justify a belief that our democratic process doesn’t work.

under any other president, Republican or democrat, this wouldn’t have been a political issue.

 

[UsualName]

Ah, so he is being charged? Or set to be charged based on the evidence once out of the Presidency?

For the indictment, it’s hard to say. An ex-President isn’t an everyday citizen. If he was just a regular guy, no doubt he would have been charged.

Then there are also pardons yet to come and the open question of if Trump will pardon himself - which I have to say I do think will be held as legal if he does.

 

[Tsing Tao]

For the indictment, it’s hard to say. An ex-President isn’t an everyday citizen. If he was just a regular guy, no doubt he would have been charged.

Then there are also pardons yet to come and the open question of if Trump will pardon himself - which I have to say I do think will be held as legal if he does.

When - and if - this day comes, you will be vindicated. Until then, you aren't. You have a claim. Just as I do on the topic of this thread.

 

[UsualName]

When - and if - this day comes, you will be vindicated. Until then, you aren't. You have a claim. Just as I do on the topic of this thread.

No. My claim is Trump is a crook. That is valid. He is guilty of misuse of charitable funds. This is a fact. He is also guilty of fraud with Trump university.

Trump is a crook.