Can't win in futures trading

trading_time said:
Also the average professional traders don't have fixed stops their size is too large they scale into and out of positions which means they have several entry points whether or not it is going against them or in their favor. Stops are used by retail traders.. Think like a professional.. then trade like one!
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Yep, Scale into with the trend, then exit all when the trend turns against you, it's what I've moved to.

Trying to control losses = many losses which add up especially as most are needlessly losers!

Only took 10years to realise this mind!
 
Leverage is greater on futures, reason to stick with and leave futures, that increased leverage means your likely trying to trade with to tight an SL then random spikes are just murdering you all the time.

Or your counter trend trading, these are really the only 2 reasons people lose.
 
ctmvas said:
For some reason I can't succeed in trading futures. I do great in stocks(not options) and other instruments. Some reason my trading style doesn't work in futures. No matter what I do, I always lose. Every time I place a trade, it goes against me. Regardless if in the trend, support resistance. So, I'm hear to say cme is the biggest scam. Hft/cme they're on the same freakin team. Wanting you to lose!
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Are you using this thread to make a statement or want input on trading futures ??
 
DDR said:
Are you using this thread to make a statement or want input on trading futures ??
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Give the guy a break, he admitted he was probably just being a sore loser. We all have to get a rant out every now and then, as long as we admit it as such after we cool down no harm, no foul.
 
Turveyd said:
your likely trying to trade with too tight a SL then random spikes are just murdering you all the time
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Not suggesting anything to the OP, but you can run pretty tight stops if your timing, trade management, instrument selection, and statistical skills are highly developed. Most traders will never get to that level, but it's not necessary to survive the game. Less experienced traders can generate profits with wider stops and learn the SL tightening process along the way
 
Sig said:
Give the guy a break, he admitted he was probably just being a sore loser. We all have to get a rant out every now and then, as long as we admit it as such after we cool down no harm, no foul.
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What a dumb thing to say I'm here to help ! AND if you paid attention you'd know I've offered help in 2 other posts to other members
 
profitlocker said:
Not suggesting anything to the OP, but you can run pretty tight stops if your timing, trade management, instrument selection, and statistical skills are highly developed. Most traders will never get to that level, but it's not necessary to survive the game. Less experienced traders can generate profits with wider stops and learn the SL tightening process along the way
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Picture an early setup nested within a lagging setup. Can get some pretty good field position that way. Allows scratching gracefully if it's necessary.
 
Turveyd said:
Yep, Scale into with the trend, then exit all when the trend turns against you, it's what I've moved to.

Trying to control losses = many losses which add up especially as most are needlessly losers!

Only took 10years to realise this mind!
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What is your fav trend determining indicator/method? If you don't mind me asking?
 
Trader200K said:
What is your fav trend determining indicator/method? If you don't mind me asking?
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I'm using a 42sma coloured, so i can see its direction no mattee how weak, and only trade with that.

Then I use a BB 42 1.3, a move outside will likely continue in that direction, if on wrong side, bail at a sensible place.

No SL is key :)
 
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