Canadians in P&R

[MoneyMatthew]

We have few Canadians in P&R here who love to critique and pass judgement on Americans as well as our political processes. I wonder if they ever critique their own government or discuss any of the social injustices in their own country?

I can't find any posts by these people really against Canada yet countless posts on how horrible and racist many Americans are can easily be found. Is going on EliteTrader and complaining about America a form of escapism for them? Maybe they even feel a sense of virtue and justice by letting Americans know how stupid and racist they are? What are the motivations that drive them? Is Canada really so boring and perfect that it does not even warrant a discussion?

I actually think they are avoiding the horrible crimes that Canada has committed against the First Nation/Aboriginal People of Canada. There is a continued Cultural Genocide going on against these people. Many people even feel that Canada has current racial problems worse than America.

There are a host of environmental concerns that are worse in Canada as well as animals rights issues in Canada due to excessive over hunting. These can be viewed from an American perspective as liberal issues primarily and the situation is worse in Canada yet the Canadians here in P&R are silent on these issues.

It is much easier to go make fun of Americans anonymously on a message board than to face the crimes and issues of your own country. Making fun of Trump is good for emotional escapism rather than discussing the deep and unresolved issues of your own nation.

Prove me wrong by pointing to a post here in P&R where you discuss these issues or are critical of Canada in any way. You have no problem finding faults in America, have you listed any for Canada? Or do you prefer to stay blind????

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/out-of-sight-out-of-mind-2/

Canada’s race problem? It’s even worse than America’s.

For a country so self-satisfied with its image of progressive tolerance, how is this not a national crisis?

Scott Gilmore

BERNARD WEIL/TORONTO STAR/CP

The racial mess in the United States looks pretty grim and is painful to watch. We can be forgiven for being quietly thankful for Canada’s more inclusive society, which has avoided dramas like that in Ferguson, Mo. We are not the only ones to think this. In the recently released Social Progress Index, Canada is ranked second amongst all nations for its tolerance and inclusion.



Unfortunately, the truth is we have a far worse race problem than the United States. We just can’t see it very easily.

Terry Glavin, recently writing in the Ottawa Citizen, mocked the idea that the United States could learn from Canada’s example when it comes to racial harmony. To illustrate his point, he compared the conditions of the African-American community to Canada’s First Nations. If you judge a society by how it treats its most disadvantaged, Glavin found us wanting. Consider the accompanying table. By almost every measurable indicator, the Aboriginal population in Canada is treated worse and lives with more hardship than the African-American population. All these facts tell us one thing: Canada has a race problem, too.

How are we not choking on these numbers? For a country so self-satisfied with its image of progressive tolerance, how is this not a national crisis? Why are governments not falling on this issue?

RELATED: Welcome to Winnipeg: Where Canada’s racism problem is at its worst

Possibly it is because our Fergusons are hidden deep in the bush, accessible only by chartered float plane: 49 per cent of First Nations members live on remote reserves. Those who do live in urban centres are mostly confined to a few cities in the Prairies. Fewer than 40,000 live in Toronto, not even one per cent of the total population of the Greater Toronto Area. Our racial problems are literally over the horizon, out of sight and out of mind.

Or it could be because we simply do not see the forest for trees. We are distracted by the stories of corrupt band councils, or flooded reserves, or another missing Aboriginal woman. Some of us wring our hands, and a handful of activists protest. There are a couple of unread op-eds, and maybe a Twitter hashtag will skip around for a few days. But nothing changes. Yes, we admit there is a governance problem on the reserves. We might agree that “something” should be done about the missing and murdered women. In Ottawa a few policy wonks write fretful memos on land claims and pipelines. But collectively, we don’t say it out loud: “Canada has a race problem.”

If we don’t have a race problem then what do we blame? Our justice system, unable to even convene Aboriginal juries? Band administrators, like those in Attawapiskat, who defraud their own people? Our health care system that fails to provide Aboriginal communities with health outcomes on par with El Salvador? Politicians too craven to admit the reserve system has failed? Elders like Chief Ava Hill, cynically willing to let a child die this week from treatable cancer in order to promote Aboriginal rights? Aboriginal people themselves for not throwing out the leaders who serve them so poorly? Police forces too timid to grasp the nettle and confront unbridled criminality like the organized drug-smuggling gangs in Akwesasne? Federal bureaucrats for constructing a $7-billion welfare system that doesn’t work? The school system for only graduating 42 per cent of reserve students? Aboriginal men, who have pushed their community’s murder rate past Somalia’s? The media for not sufficiently or persistently reporting on these facts?

Or: us? For not paying attention. For believing our own hype about inclusion. For looking down our noses at America and ignorantly thinking, “That would never happen here.” For not acknowledging Canada has a race problem.

We do and it is bad. And it is not just with the Aboriginal peoples. For new immigrants and the black community the numbers are not as stark, but they tell a depressingly similar story.

If we want to fix this, the first step is to admit something is wrong. Start by saying it to yourself, but say it out loud: “Canada has a race problem.”

 

[futurecurrents]

What's amazing is that most of the best Americans here are Canadian. The US folks are generally ignorant assholes.

 

[MoneyMatthew]

What's amazing is that most of the best Americans here are Canadian. The US folks are generally ignorant assholes.

What is your opinion on the Cultural Genocide and treatment of Aboriginal people in Canada? Have you spoken out against it on this site? Have you spoken out against the Oil industry in Canada in regards to Climate Change? Show me the posts where you have.

 

[MoneyMatthew]

What's amazing is that most of the best Americans here are Canadian. The US folks are generally ignorant assholes.

So you are stupid enough to try a make a play on words by saying a Canadian would identify as an "American" to then go on and compliment those "Americans" by saying they are the best and USA based "Americans" are "generally ignorant assholes".

My challenge to you is to is to show me one post where a Canadian on this site calls themselves an "American". You can't do that because you are a stupid ignorant dumb idiot who makes things up as you go along. I am making the bold prediction that most people from Canada refer to themselves as "Canadian". Gosh you are so stupid futurecurrents, go back to talking about Climate Change to make yourself feel smart because you are just so stupid here.

 

[fhl]

The real reason Canadians like their health care system.

 

[MoneyMatthew]

The real reason Canadians like their health care system.

Canadians seem ready, willing and able to discuss and debate any criticisms that Americans have with their health system. They would actually prefer that you bring that up instead of talking about the environmental and racial issues in their country.

 

[LacesOut]

BRUTAL...

A Muslim Murder Spree in Canada’s Capital

January 9, 2017

Daniel Greenfield[Daniel Greenfield,a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam.]

Front Page Magazine [the Magazine is a product of the David Horowitz Freedom Centre,a right wing groupfounded 27 years ago].

Canada’s capital is a small sleepy city of less than a million. Its average annual murder rate is only 10. That’s a weekend in Chicago. But last year something strange happened to Ottawa’s murder rate.

It shot up to 24 homicides.

The last two murders were of Somali Muslim sisters Asma and Nasiba. Their murderer was their brother, Musab A-Noor. Despite the obvious history of Muslim honor killings of women, often carried out by brothers against their sisters, Musab was found “unfit” to stand trial. A director at the Somali Centre for Family Services insisted that Somali settlers in the city need more mental health funding.

Something certainly seems to be needed.

Therewere an estimated66,000 Muslim settlers in the Ottawa - Gatineau metropolitan area. Despite forming some 5 percent of the population, theyare startlingly overrepresentedin Ottawa’s murders.

2016 in Ottawa ended with a Muslim murder in December and it began with a Muslim murder in January. Mohamed Najdiwas killed by five otherMuslim men. Mohamed had probably been shot in connection withthe 2015 shootingof yet another Muslim man by an accused killer named Mohammad.

And we mustn’t confuse Mohamed with Mohammad.

The other Mohammad, a Kuwaiti immigrant, had beena suspect in multiple shootingsthe previous year andhad spent two years in prisonfor sexual assault.

At January’s end, Marwan Arab, Ottawa’s second homicide victim, was shot, along with his cousin. Both men were members of the Algonquin Muslim Students Association. One of theArab cousins allegedlyhad links to a terror suspect. The shootingled to more arrestsof Muslims for plotting another attack.

In March, Christina Voelzing became Ottawa’s sixth murder victim. The 24-year-old Algonquin college student was murdered by her ex-boyfriend Behnam Yaali. Yaali, a drug smuggler, was represented by a lawyerwho also specializesin refugee law.

Twenty-four hours after almost being allowed to walk free after pleading guilty to robbery,Idris Abdulgani wasarrested for murdering Lonnie Leafloor, a 56-yearold former truck driver, by stabbing him in the back of the neck.

And that was Ottawa’s seventh murder.

Of the first seven murders in Ottawa, six involved Muslims as victims or perpetrators and one is ambiguous. Almost half of the total murders in Ottawa last year involved Muslims. The same had also been true for the previous year.

Meanwhile in 2014, Ottawa witnessed a Muslim honor killing and the terrorist attack on Parliament Hill by Abdallah Bulgasem Zehaf, a Libyan Muslim terrorist, whose actions were blamed on, predictably enough, mental illness. Abdallah had wanted peace, but argued that, “There can’t be world peace until there’s only Muslims.” There can’t, apparently for that matter, be peace in Ottawa with Muslims.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, a vehement advocate of Muslim colonization, had declared that Canada was the “first postnational state”.

“There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada,” the radical leftist leader had insisted.

But in the rest of Ottawa, outside the prime minister’s residence at 24 Sussex Drive, the postnational state is measured out in bullets. Ottawa has seen its deadliest killing sprees in decades. And a disturbing percentage of these horrifying crimes have links to organized Muslim gang violence either through the victim or the perpetrator. Ottawa’s gang violence is beginning to resemble Chicago on a smaller scale.

The postnational state is a place where a Somali or a Kuwaiti can come to Canada and kill. It’s a vacuum with no “core identity” and no “mainstream” that is being filled by violence exported from abroad.

When the 2016 murder rate was only at 7, Ottawa’s Major Crime Unit wasalready stretched thin. Imagine it at 24. In 2016, Ottawa was still struggling with the 2006 murder of drug dealer Mohamed Zalal. The case of his Muslim killerhas been dragging onfor a decade. Meanwhile Canada is still trying to deport accused Al Qaeda sleeper agent Mohamed Harkat. Harkat was first arrested in 2002.

(But let’s not confuse these Mohameds with those Mohammeds.)

Superintendent Don Sweet of the Ottawa police has warned that the murder spike may be a “new normal”. But that new normal is what life in the capital of a postnational state with open borders looks like.

And murder is only at the very extreme tip of the bloody iceberg.

The ByWard market has become a magnet for violence. Onesummer weekendsaw six stabbing victims. Police arrested Mohamed Hamed Mohamed and Ali Abbari. Mohamedalready appearedto have been arrested in the Arab shooting case earlier that year. In the fall,ByWard saw a shooting, a beating and a stabbing.

Also last year, three Muslim men in Ottawa weresentenced for trying to joinISIS. Another Ottawa Muslim fighting with ISIS was accused of sending a death threat through Facebook. In the Blair Transitway attack, two Muslims were among those charged with the gang rape of a 15-year-old girl.

But enough is never enough for the left.

Ottawa has its own “Little Syria” where over a thousand migrants have been dumped. The mass migration quickly overwhelmed local resources. And the Muslim migrantshave become a burdenon food banks. There are already tens of thousands of Somali settlers in Ottawa forming their own outpost.

A good deal of the Muslim gang violence emerges from Somalis as well as other Muslim refugees. And Somali gang violence is a terrifying problem that has scarred Canadian and American cities.

Syrian Muslim migrant dumping will add another level to the violence and terror that already exists.

"When we think about integration and success we can't be overly impatient," Justin Trudeau insisted.

And so the grand postnational experiment, with its associated terror plots, shootings, stabbings and rapes continues. And Canadians mustn’t be impatient at being occasionally shot or stabbed. You can’t integrate a colonial Islamic population without breaking a lot of Canadian skulls.

This experiment has troubling implications for the United States and for the rest of the world.

Canada’s liberal migration policies have a history of spilling over into Islamic terror attacks against America like the LAX bombing plot. And the transformation of a nation into a postnational disaster shows the consequences of opening borders and closing minds all too clearly.

Last year, Obama declared, “We need more Canada.” As America and Europe move toward sane national policies, the left has held up Canada’s ignorant leader as an exemplar of post-nationalism.

Meanwhile in the morgues and cemeteries of Canada’s capital, the prisons and hospitals, the horrifying human cost of the post-national experiment is all too tragically clear.

 

[achilles28]

Agreed. Canada has a shitload of problems. I'm a Canadian.

Ironic to note: 25% of Canada's GDP are exports to the United States. After the knock-on effect, about 1/3rd of Canada's national income is derived from American consumption. IOW, America foots the bill for Canada's socialist 'utopia'. Most Canadians then turn around, and slam America all day. Just sheer ignorance. But the ironic truth.

I don't get the Aboriginal issue. What are we supposed to do, exactly? Why are whites to blame? Asian immigrants beat native whites in almost every metric - income, education, dual parent homes, mortality, incarceration etc. So why are native Indians having such a hard time? And why is it the White Mans fault? What have I done personally to put the natives in such a bad place? The Indians wanted a separate province. They claimed their success was tied to their own province and own self determination as a people!! So they got it. And what happened? They're still broke off their fucking ass, dependent, and now with their hand out again.

What the f do they want? They'll say next! Our success is tied to you giving us another xxx Billion dollars!!! SO we give it them. Then they fail miserably again. Then they come back to the table with the same threat.

Listen, this is all white guilt bullshit. It's terrorist tactics. Give me what I want OR YOU'RE A RACIST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN"T MADE REPARATIONS.

This is the underlying logic of the situation.

Fuck em. We made reparations. THey got what they wanted. Now its on them.

What about personal accountability? Whenever I hear discussion of Aboriginals and Black "issues", I never hear the term "personal accountability". Curious. Isn't it?

 

[MoneyMatthew]

Agreed. Canada has a shitload of problems. I'm a Canadian.

Ironic to note: 25% of Canada's GDP are exports to the United States. After the knock-on effect, about 1/3rd of Canada's national income is derived from American consumption. IOW, America foots the bill for Canada's socialist 'utopia'. Most Canadians then turn around, and slam America all day. Just sheer ignorance. But the ironic truth.

I don't get the Aboriginal issue. What are we supposed to do, exactly? Why are whites to blame? Asian immigrants beat native whites in almost every metric - income, education, dual parent homes, mortality, incarceration etc. So why are native Indians having such a hard time? And why is it the White Mans fault? What have I done personally to put the natives in such a bad place? The Indians wanted a separate province. They claimed their success was tied to their own province and own self determination as a people!! So they got it. And what happened? They're still broke off their fucking ass, dependent, and now with their hand out again.

What the f do they want? They'll say next! Our success is tied to you giving us another xxx Billion dollars!!! SO we give it them. Then they fail miserably again. Then they come back to the table with the same threat.

Listen, this is all white guilt bullshit. It's terrorist tactics. Give me what I want OR YOU'RE A RACIST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN"T MADE REPARATIONS.

This is the underlying logic of the situation.

Fuck em. We made reparations. THey got what they wanted. Now its on them.

What about personal accountability? Whenever I hear discussion of Aboriginals and Black "issues", I never hear the term "personal accountability". Curious. Isn't it?

I had no idea you were Canadian. I won't name names but there are Canadians that go on this message board and constantly talk down to people in the USA. They call us names constantly without equal distribution to their own countrymen.

I welcome any Canadians besides achilles28 here to show me any of your posts where you equally criticize Canada.

 

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