Canada's Depression: Surging Crime, Soaring Suicides, Overwhelmed Food Banks

I would absolutely look at him first. What makes me laugh is that you liberals never look at Obama first. It seems he's not at fault for anything, despite being at the helm.
Harper inherited a budget surplus from the Liberals. Obama inherited historic deficits and an imploding economy from Bush. Apple meet orange.
 
Obama inherited historic deficits and an imploding economy from Bush. Apple meet orange.

Yes, it's nothing at all the same. Obama gets a pass because of all the stellar economic performance the man has generated eight fucking years after Bush left.

And you wonder why no one here takes you seriously.
 
While Canada's economy is certainly vulnerable to the commodity cycle, I think it's fascinating how you specifically singled out the oil patch province for your diatribe.

I'm reminded of Cruz, who pointed out that there has been no significant warming in the last 17 years. (Why specifically 17? Because 17 years ago was an El Niño year, when the temperature spiked dramatically.) I can only imagine how much you and Cruz would make if you went into the cherry-picking business together.
Was the El Nino caused by CO2 going up?
 
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Yes, it's nothing at all the same. Obama gets a pass because of all the stellar economic performance the man has generated eight fucking years after Bush left.

And you wonder why no one here takes you seriously.
I think a comparison with recovery from the Great Depression is in order. Apparently an economy does not recover from these very deep recessions in just a few years. The length and depth of the Depression was made worse buy wrong headed response at the Federal Reserve and in the Hoover Administration, and it took a long time for the Roosevelt administration to get on the right track. I would say, by comparison, both the performance of the U.S. Fed and the Obama administration was much better this time around. This was probably because what not to do was learned from the mistakes made in responding to the Great Depression. We did far better this time around, having succeeded in converting what would surely have been another Great Depression into a deep recession instead. Considering the current economy, still not fully recovered, but well on the way, it might be reasonable to conclude we are a little ahead of schedule. I suppose that both the recovery from the Great Depression and that from the Great Recession might have been accelerated had not both the Roosevelt and the Obama administrations had to battle a recalcitrant Congress that fought recovery measures at every turn.

With regard to Canada, I'm guessing that if you were to look up the nation-wide data for crime and incarceration rates and compare those data with the same nation wide data for the U.S., you would be rather startled at the difference. What's rather curious to me is that they have somehow managed to do this with a, seemingly impossible, lower overall tax rate as long as you consider the total of what U.S. citizens pay for health care (medicare + employer+ employee+ private insurance) as a tax and what Canadians pay for health care as a tax. Rather remarkable! Perhaps we should send spies to our Northern neighbor and try to discover how they do it.

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N.B. one of the curious things about Roosevelt's Congress is that there was only about 17 Republican Senators left in the Senate after his landslide victory during the Depression. Nevertheless he was still thwarted at every turn in trying to push through recovery measures because of a bipartisan conservative coalition. How different things are today with sharp division along party lines.
 
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I lived in Ottawa for 3 years in the most xpensive condo building in the city-- so i wasnt in the ghetto.

Homeless were everywhere and crippled on hover rounds ruled the sidewalks. It was like a freak show everyday with the indigent, political malcontents, gutter punks, and elderly infirmed the majority in many places.

AND this was doing the boom times 2010-2013--- I can only imagine what it will be like during a recession--- we left the place with BOC Gov Carney and will never return!!

One good thing, despite the freakozoids, i always felt safe walking the streets. Most of these cats were so medicated or drugged out, i saw zero real violence.

In addition, my experience with healthcare there was excellent. Nothing i read was true. We had a baby there and it was great. Plus i hurt my ankle bad and hand -- the care was better than i have experienced in USA. Maybe i was lucky?? Don't know--

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Amazing how little you know about Ottawa. I guess being holed up in a condo for 3 years and hardly ever leaving the office isn't a well rounded life. I do wonder if you realize how ridiculous your theories are, I think a good number of criminal acts in the US or Canada can involve someone who is medicated in some fashion. Yet here you are trying to explain a low crime rate in an absurd fashion. Miami of course has a huge crime problem, and Florida has very real economic issues. Ottawa doesn't have "boom times", it's a steady eddy kind of place and has been for decades. Not sure where the ghetto's are in Ottawa, but Miami might have some, sure.

Look, I'm not sure if you are truly dumb enough to believe the shit you post, or are just playing games on here. But if you are serious, wow, perhaps you need a mental health check.
 
With regard to Canada, I'm guessing that if you were to look up the nation-wide data for crime and incarceration rates and compare those data with the same nation wide data for the U.S., you would be rather startled at the difference. What's rather curious to me is that they have somehow managed to do this with a, seemingly impossible, lower overall tax rate as long as you consider the total of what U.S. citizens pay for health care (medicare + employer+ employee+ private insurance) as a tax and what Canadians pay for health care as a tax. Rather remarkable! Perhaps we should send spies to our Northern neighbor and try to discover how they do it.

I have my doubts that most of the posters here can understand the importance of looking beyond one's borders. They'd rather believe their stories because it makes them feel better.
Is Canada's health care system better ? Easily, there is no doubt on this. The posters claiming that most Canadians use private clinics and hate the system are bs. It's simply not true, period. Take a poll on Canadians and ask them how many would trade our system for the American system, you'd get 99% refusing to switch.

Words on an American trading site don't change realities. Most of what I'm reading in P&R seems to be propaganda. There isn't even an attempt to learn from others, it's just people bitching about things and blaming others. The more ignorant seem to think that muslims, blacks, liberals, or any number of other types of people cause all their problems in life. Trump helps highlight this trend lately, his most loyal supporters are disgruntled older guys ( forget the age group, maybe 45-65 ) with high school education or less, many of whom rarely if ever have travelled outside of the US.

Apparently, some American posters can't stand the thought of Canada having an advantage over them on any aspect of their life. If it's real they have to deny it, look for news articles or others who share their opinion. It's not unlike those who used to post about equities going to crash in 2010 or 2011, if one has a suitable bias, the confirmation bias will lead them to finding "proof" in their theories. And if they are proven wrong, they feel cheated at some point. Admitting that Canadians can get decent medical care at a fraction of the cost that Americans can is too painful a reality for them to hear.
 
Honestly, I care as much about Canada's well being as I do about Mexico's. I just find it hilarious that many Canadians are obsessed with the goings on here instead of putting the energy to fixing or debating Canadian problems. Obsession is a killer.
What's so funny?
Canada is America's number one trading partner.
When America sneezes, we catch a cold.
It goes without saying that there is interest in what goes on in America.

That being said - it's no surprise that most Americans don't care what Canada does.
Most Americans don't even have a fucking passport.
 
I've lived in both countries.
With great insurance in the US - the health care was terrific.

In Canada? Meh. Not overly impressed.

I'm talking about basic healthcare stuff (colds, flu, prescriptions).

Your basic GP in Canada sucks compared to your US GP.
I realize this is my own experience and not meant to be a generalization.
 
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