Can McCain save America ?

[Yannis]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

By whom? Who is it that pronounces anything as "perfectly doable," other than the Supreme Court?

Our politicians, Congress and the President, in their speeches - it's been discussed for years now and they could never agree to do it.

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from ratboy88:

oil prices caused the spike in rates... not Carter's fault. but they did the right thing instead of printing their way out with fiat money.

the oil crises preceeded carter.

How old are you????? Carter took office in 76 and oil was not that bad...56-65 cents per gallon...by 79' it was 1.20...Nixon and Ford didn;t have the oil price problem

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Then perhaps the state Governors should have a line item veto over what the President proposes.

Maybe then we would not have such a massive Federal entitlement increase that have been pushed to the state under Bush the Older and Bush the younger.

Quote from Yannis:

Come to think of it, I believe that most states have given line item veto to their Governors - bush said that he had it in Texas, and the then Governor of NJ, what's her name, Whitman, agreed.

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Speeches?

You gotta be shitting me man...you aren't actually citing speeches as done by profession wordsmiths as proposed law?

You're smarter than this.

Quote from Yannis:

Our politicians, Congress and the President, in their speeches - it's been discussed for years now and they could never agree to do it.

 

[Yannis]

Whenever you have a legislative body proposing and an executive signing off or vetoing, line item veto makes excellent sense.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from TM_Direct:

How old are you????? Carter took office in 76 and oil was not that bad...56-65 cents per gallon...by 79' it was 1.20...Nixon and Ford didn;t have the oil price problem

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Gerald Ford's presidential term was as much marked by the economic forces of inflation as it was by the political fortunes of the time.

Ford, who was sworn in as president on Aug. 9, 1974, after the resignation of Richard Nixon, faced inflation that was already surging at a 10.9 percent annual rate in that month. It was thrust into overdrive by the OPEC oil embargo of 1974 and the elimination of wage/price controls instituted in the Nixon administration.

As energy constituted more of the nation's GDP in the early 1970s, soaring gas prices had an even more profound effect on the U.S. economy than recent gas price hikes have.

Rising energy prices also contributed to higher unemployment by slowing consumer demand for companies' products, according to Mark Ratkus, economics professor at LaSalle University in Philadelphia.

Ford's approach to controlling inflation, according to his White House biography, was through modest tax cuts and spending restraints. He also sought to "decontrol" energy prices in order to stimulate production......

http://money.cnn.com/2006/12/27/news/newsmakers/gerald_ford/

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

The problem is that's a not how it works. The President proposes and the legislative signs off on it.

Quote from Yannis:

Whenever you have a legislative body proposing and an executive signing off or vetoing, line item veto makes excellent sense.

 

[Yannis]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

Speeches?

You gotta be shitting me man...you aren't actually citing speeches as done by profession wordsmiths as proposed law?

What I'm saying is that whenever this is discussed, the Constitution is never mentioned as a problem. They can do it if they agreed to it. But they don't, each side wants too much power to themselves.

 

[Arnie]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

Senators as Presidents haven't historically fared well. Generally they don't even get elected. This year America will elect the first Senator-to-President since LBJ.

That really doesn't count, imo. JFK was the last Senator ELECTED to pres.

 

[Yannis]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

The problem is that's a not how it works. The President proposes and the legislative signs off on it.

Yes, they send it back full of changes. Plus, next time that Congess is to authorize a bill to buy a new ship for the Navy, people add money to research the secret behavior of hosexual fleas and build roads to nowhere, which doubles the cost of everything, all the time.