Can i SUE a Brokerage for refusing me because of my citizenship?

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Quote from lazybones:

Post 9/11 has changed the entire account opening process. My brother in law has a Middle Eastern and Muslim name. If you read into the Patriot Act, firms must fulfill tons of requirements in the account opening process. If you sue, you may have to go to the Fed level.

here a link

http://www.nasdr.com/aml_statement.html


Yes, this law has come into affect recently, and i never had
these problems before.

Even traders from close US allies like Pakistan, Indea, Saudi
Arabia, Kuwait,... ...their account processing gets too lengthy
because going through lot of formalities

I just got 2 PM from Middleeastern ET members yesterday,
having similar problems
 
Quote from ertrader1:

the Patriot Act and the HOMELAND DEFENSE BILL......have made many things harder including offshore LLCs. I think those to wonderful GOVERNMENTAL moves says it all for NANA.......

That is why he ran into difficulties.

I hope not ALL BROKERAGES close account on these
countries very soon
 
Quote from waggie945:

Yep.

Ever since 911 we now have the Patriot Act and NASD Rule 3011 and NYSE Rule 445, that all broker/dealer firms are required to have AML compliance programs in place by April 24th, 2002

Perhaps the broker/dealer that Nana was dealing with just didn't want to have to deal with his situation. But that's ok, this is the USA and business owner's do indeed have the Freedom to Choose who their customers are, right?

http://www.nasdr.com/money.asp#rules

I come to know it's more of a personal choice/matter, if
brokers decide to open your account, Even you meet all
the criteria needed.

But still very larger firms don't want to take risk for having
minor customers like me, so i have to settle with smaller
firms because lake of business they need to have my business
 
Quote from BlueHorseshoe:

This is likely the crux of the matter. Yes, American firms can generally turn customers away at will, but doing so can obviously be costly in terms of revenue and profitability, which in the end is all they really care about.

But the 'need to know one's customer' and anti money laundering regulations in the US have been stepped up dramatically, along the lines of all the headaches we hear about at the international airports.

Nana, you are an Iranian expat citizen living somewhere in the middle east. It is understood or assumed that forged or fake documents, from passports, birth certificates, to domecile documents are available for a nickle in the region you reside.

Thus, my best guess is that a senior CSR exec at the brokerage simply determined that they couldn't reach a certain comfort level with determining who you are and where your money is coming from. Quite reasonable IMO. To put it more bluntly, Iran is actively sponsoring terrorist organizations - who is Nana Trader and is he worth the risk? Possibly not.

If you really want an account with this firm, you might enquire whether this is the case and if so, how you might go the extra mile to demonstrate to them that you are just an average shmoe trying to make a buck.

But hostility and threats are a dead end.


<<Thus, my best guess is that a senior CSR exec at the
brokerage simply determined that they couldn't reach
a certain comfort level with determining who you are
and where your money is coming from. >>
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Hi, how is it going? what you said above is the exact case.
and these larger firms don't have to take risk for minor customers
like me. In spite of not lot of traders from these countries
to affect their revenue anyway

But after applying thrice, i'm sure they don't even need to
be convinced. So, i give it up.
 
Quote from Nana Trader:

Yes, this law has come into affect recently, and i never had
these problems before.

Even traders from close US allies like Pakistan, India, Saudi
Arabia, Kuwait,... ...their account processing gets too lengthy
because going through lot of formalities

I just got 2 PM from Middleeastern ET members yesterday,
having similar problems

=====
Remember being friends with a Pakastani man in the military;
because I thought he was Indian & grew up bowhunting with part -Indian named Ronnie in school.

Yes , Ronnie, part Indian ,excelled in archery!!!
Believe it or not,

Now we notice some griping about to much business with Indians.




Nanatrader, you think American Banks are wrong to discriminate with much more paperwork required , higher interest rate or simply refuse a loan on a rental residence[investor property]???

Especially since they would wisely lower interest rate if you actually lived in exact home, in thier home nation.

Rather than a Semitic bank /broker conspiracy or infidel conspiracy;
sounds like they think you are out of thier marketing area.

:cool:
 
Quote from Nana Trader:

Hi Traders,

I have applied for new account with a brokerage firm earlier,
and they told me they won't accept Iranian citizens unless i
prove that i am living and working outside Iran permanently.

...

The answer is that they dont need to take you as a customer and can refuse your business based upon exactly what they told you.

If you dont like their response then attempt to sue them: get a lawyer. My prediction is that you will get nowhere but its your money and if you want to throw it away then more power to you.

Stop complaining and find a workaround solution : just dont violate and country laws or expect - in the current environment - to be prosecuted if you get caught .
 
Quote from Nana Trader:

This has nothing to do with America and "generalizing" it.
We have Iranian bitchs too, Bitchs are all over the world.
Are you happy now ?:D

I apologize if some people felt offended, since i'm not
American, so had no idea


The funny thing is .....I always thought you were an Asian Woman:confused: :confused: :D
 
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