California hikes minimum wage to $20/hr. Workers now make $0/hr

What if the cost to automate the 10 positions used to be more expensive then it was to employ 10 people, but after you hike wages, it suddenly becomes a viable alternative?
Let's hope it does! Machines should be doing our work, and we should be collecting "their" wages.
If we can't collect the fruits of their labor, like I asked before, what's the point of all this mess we've made?
 
what are you talking about?


Companies that don't have to pay employees health insurance or fair wages can offer lower delivery service prices than UPS so those companies takes business/customers/potential customers from UPS.
 
Companies that don't have to pay employees health insurance or fair wages can offer lower delivery service prices than UPS so those companies takes business/customers/potential customers from UPS.

Im all for a company earning business with lower prices but not when their advantage is lower labor cost because the government is subsidizing them by paying for their employees living expenses through government benefits.
 
Companies that don't have to pay employees health insurance or fair wages can offer lower delivery service prices than UPS so those companies takes business/customers/potential customers from UPS.

if a company is overpaying vs another company then that’s on the overpaying company for being uncompetitive.

I’m sure you patron the least competitive companies.
 
if a company is overpaying vs another company then that’s on the overpaying company for being uncompetitive.
Its not fair competition when the government is paying for healthcare,food stamps,housing assistance,childcare assistance,earned income tax credit etc for one company's employees and not the other.
 
Its not fair competition when the government is paying for healthcare,food stamps,housing assistance,childcare assistance,earned income tax credit etc for one company's employees and not the other.


Medicaid for all and UBI would mostly solve this as all government benefits would be the same and low wage paying companies would no longer have that advantage.They would have to pay true market wages or not have employees.
 
Its not fair competition when the government is paying for healthcare,food stamps,housing assistance,childcare assistance,earned income tax credit etc for one company's employees and not the other.

Companies can choose to pay it or not as they compete for workers.
Workers can choose which company offers them the best opportunity.

Since it's about fairness of pay across companies, all truck drivers should be paid 100k or UPS drivers and hedgefund managers should get free food and housing assistance.
 
Companies can choose to pay it or not as they compete for workers.


The choices for those companies aren't the same when the government is paying for healthcare,food stamps,housing assistance,childcare assistance,earned income tax credit etc for one company's employees and not the other.
 
Since it's about fairness of pay across companies, all truck drivers should be paid 100k or UPS drivers and hedgefund managers should get free food and housing assistance.

The government should tax a company for every penny the government spent on their employees government benefits plus interest and administrative costs if the company pays less than a livable wage.
 
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