California hikes minimum wage to $20/hr. Workers now make $0/hr

[newwurldmn]

Its not a free market when the government/ tax payer is subsidizing low wage employers.

separate issue. The wage market is what the wage market is.

Government supplimental incomes is a social issue. I take stock with the idea that a business isn't viable if it can't pay a "living wage."

 

[newwurldmn]

Its not a free market when the government/ tax payer is subsidizing low wage employers.

Btw - you might not be aware, but Trump floated the idea of allowing work camps where labor laws including wages could be skirted in economically depressed towns. My friend who ran an workforce training business was invited to the proposal hearing. Obviously the idea was scrapped.

 

[newwurldmn]

Hmm - small biz's go under.
spitballin' here, but... maybe, just maybe

that was always the globalist plan.

These laws don't hurt big businesses. They hurt small businesses.
FMLA can put a small business out because they can't afford to have 2 people in 1 role, where as a big business can have 35 people for 30 people's jobs.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Im going to warn you ahead of time that what I’m about to say is very likely make you lose your shit.

*Some people are better off on the couch than in the workforce. Whether it’s because their skills don’t match the labor market or the labor market doesn’t make work profitable for them.

Heh...there's literally nothing you can say that will make me lose my shit. And I'm being drop dead serious here, my friend. Say whatever you feel like.

As for your comment, I actually agree. But those people shouldn't expect a government handout. That's my point.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Once again you’re being too clever by half and tricking yourself into believing something that is not true to feed your biases. Unemployment is unemployment. Its measure has been constant with minor tweaks here and there. We are currently in maximum employment with very little wiggle room. Which is why wages are going up.

It's been constantly a mirage. One of us has certainly been tricked here, that's for sure.

Tell me, what's the U6 unemployment rate, and - once you figure that out - tell me how you can call that "maximum employment". Hell, let's start at the U5!

hint:
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

 

[Tony Stark]

companies are net moving to the south and net expanding to the south. It's probably happening as fast as it reasonably can. Within a generation, i think there will be very little manufacturing in the north. There are many towns in the midwest and in new england where you can see the impacts of that. It's basically meth, poverty and high minimum wages fueled by the big cities nearby.

GDP per capita low to high

 

[Tony Stark]

Hmm - small biz's go under.

If all they add to the economy is a bunch low wage government dependent employees they should go out of business.

 

[Tony Stark]

separate issue. The wage market is what the wage market is.

Government supplimental incomes is a social issue. I take stock with the idea that a business isn't viable if it can't pay a "living wage."

The wage market is not a free wage market when one company pays it employees healthcare and high enough wages their employees don't qualify for benefits like food stamps and another company does not so the government has to pay that company's employees 500 a month Obamacare credit and 300.00 dollars in food stamps.

 

[Tony Stark]

Btw - you might not be aware, but Trump floated the idea of allowing work camps where labor laws including wages could be skirted in economically depressed towns. My friend who ran an workforce training business was invited to the proposal hearing. Obviously the idea was scrapped.

Im only voting for Trump to punish Biden and Democrats for not fighting for things like a higher min wage,medicaid option for all etc.

 

[newwurldmn]

Im only voting for Trump to punish Biden and Democrats for not fighting for things like a higher min wage,medicaid option for all etc.

That's a good idea. Vote for the guy who hates government regulation to punish the guy who is trying.