but her emails they said...

[userque]

Any political biased person making accusations about the Trump administration needs to make a clear case that the number security denials being reversed is out of the norm compared to previous administrations.

If they can do this then they have a point.

(However the real point is that this is probably not any different than previous administrations.)

Regardless of whataboutism, can you agree that ANY POTUS doing this is a problem?

 

[gwb-trading]

Regardless of whataboutism, can you agree that ANY POTUS doing this is a problem?

No I do not agree that any POTUS doing this is a problem. There may be very good reasons to override a denial. It is done in the military and defense industry regularly.

 

[userque]

No I do not agree that any POTUS doing this is a problem. There may be very good reasons to override a denial. It is done in the military and defense industry regularly.

Thanks.

Please give an example of a good reason a civilian POTUS would have to override 25 denials in about two years.

Also, explain how a civilian, former reality TV host, would be qualified to know better than the professions with regard to clearances.

 

[gwb-trading]

Thanks.

Please give an example of a good reason a civilian POTUS would have to override 25 denials in about two years.

Also, explain how a civilian, former reality TV host, would be qualified to know better than the professions with regard to clearances.

Provide us with how many overrides were done in previous administrations. I will reserve judgement till then. Mostly likely this has been a common practices since the 1950s in U.S. government.

 

[userque]

Provide us with how many overrides were done in previous administrations. I will reserve judgement till then. Mostly likely this has been a common practices since the 1950s in U.S. government.

I'll certainly post it here if I come across that information. That said:

It's clear that what has happened regarding these clearances is not standard ... regardless of similar past practices, if there are any.

To be clearer, the onus to research whether such non-standard activities are also 'past practices' is not on those complaining that non-standard activity is occurring; but instead, the onus is on those defending such activities, to show that a past practices exist, and that they override the norm.

IMO, We either believe our national secrets deserve better; or we don't really care about our national secrets. It shouldn't be a matter of political affiliation, or internet chat room pride.

 

[gwb-trading]

I'll certainly post it here if I come across that information. That said:

It's clear that what has happened regarding these clearances is not standard ... regardless of similar past practices, if there are any.

To be clear, the onus to research whether such non-standard activities are also 'past practices' is not on those complaining that non-standard activity is occurring; but instead, the onus is on those defending such activities, to show that a past practice exists, and that it overrides the norm.

IMO, We either believe our national secrets deserve better; or we don't really care about our national secrets. It shouldn't be a matter of political affiliation, or internet chat room pride.

This is a common practice in the Defense industry, military, and some departments of the federal government. How do you think all of those people who grew up behind the Iron Curtain got jobs in the government? It should not be surprising that a Presidential administration would also overturn denials of clearances.

 

[userque]

This is a common practice in the Defense industry, military, and some departments of the federal government. How do you think all of those people who grew up behind the Iron Curtain got jobs in the government? It should not be surprising that a Presidential administration would also overturn denials of clearances.

Your examples are not equivalent to a POTUS substituting his own, unqualified will, for that of those trained and experienced in making such decisions.

Perhaps this'll help: Consider a future Socialist POTUS doing the same for his friends and family. ... Now do we agree?

 

[gwb-trading]

Your examples are not equivalent to a POTUS substituting his own, unqualified will, for that of those trained and experienced in making such decisions.

Perhaps this'll help: Consider a future Socialist POTUS doing the same for his friends and family. Now do we agree?

You need to take a long list of Democratic presidents hiring friends and family. Let's start the discussion with JFK and look at the many other examples.

 

[userque]

You need to take a long list of Democratic presidents hiring friends and family. Let's start the discussion with JFK and look at the many other examples.

It's obvious we're not discussing nepotism.

Bottom line:

Our Republic divides powers ... checks and balances. Congress, lazily, has allowed the POTUS too much power.

One example is allowing the willy-nilly granting of clearances to individuals who would otherwise not come close to receiving them.
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[Cuddles]

Any political biased person making accusations about the Trump administration needs to make a clear case that the number security denials being reversed is out of the norm compared to previous administrations.

If they can do this then they have a point.

(However the real point is that this is probably not any different than previous administrations.)

Do you think the 18 year veteran turned whistleblower over this issue is also biased?