Ok but don’t pull a double standard. Either Jared and Ivanka are guilty of violating the espionage act or Hillary Clinton is not.
but her emails they said...
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Ok but don’t pull a double standard. Either Jared and Ivanka are guilty of violating the espionage act or Hillary Clinton is not.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweet-only-uses-government-phones-sent-from-iphone-2018-10
Trump's tweet claiming he 'only uses government phones' was sent from an iPhone
Omg, now the Russians and Chinese know what Trump is tweeting.
Idiot, Hillary Clinton illegally stored Top Secret information on her server, she also deleted 30,000 "personal" emails about Chelsea's wedding, and then she used bleach bit so investigators would never know everything that was on her server. Aside from those things, you are absolutely correct about hypocrisy.
Nope. I don't concede that at all. Not surprisingly you have gone binary on me right out of the gate. Look for the "either/or in your presupposition. Yup. I see it. Mr. Binary strikes again.
It is all fact dependent.
First of all Jared - dont know about Ivanka- has denied the allegations. And his staff person who the press attributed some comments to, said he did not say that. So I dont know the facts yet. and dont really care if it blows over or you hang him tomorrow.
Second of all, improper use might be a punishable infraction under various rules and statutes but not necessarily under the Espionage Act as is true with Hillary's scenario. The Espionage Act speaks to removing secure records from their normal place of safekeeping-which Hillary clearly did when moving her operation wholesale over to her offline server. Second, and I covered this already today, Hillary's criminal activities involved willful destruction of records that were under House order to be preserved.
Also before you launch into your kneejerk countering of all of this, keep in mind that my view is consistent with what the FBI itself- including Comey's chief counsel, Baker- concluded. That Hillary had violated the espionage act. Then, Loretta and her staff ordered them to change the language so that it did not match the language of the espionage act. Both Lisa Page and Baker have directly testified to that fact.
Jared/Ivanka need to defend themselves and held to account or not as the facts justify. But everyone sees your game and the dem game which is to try to call the dogs off Hillary because allegedly Ivanka and Jared did the same thing. Good luck with that. Hillary's situation is getting another look and new testimony continues to come in. And lastly as AAA - I think- said round about, no one gives a fuck if you have to take Jared or Ivanka down too. Although the evidence is not there yet. But if you do. Go for it. I have said from the beginning, I am willing to see all of Trump's circle- including Trump himself- get their legs blown off it is required to fully examine the Clintons.
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How exactly did they violate the espionage act? We all know how Hillary did. Comey even said she did.
Its time to produce or shut up.
Enough to go around for all. The left wants no rules or laws? Fine by me. Until the Clinton cartel is throughly investigated in a totally unbiased and transparent way, I couldn't care less what Trump and family are doing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...28334e-542c-11e9-814f-e2f46684196e_story.html
White House whistleblower says 25 security clearance denials were reversed during Trump administration
A White House whistleblower told lawmakers that more than two dozen denials for security clearances have been overturned during the Trump administration, calling Congress her “last hope” for addressing what she considers improper conduct that has left the nation’s secrets exposed.
Tricia Newbold, a longtime White House security adviser, told the House Oversight and Reform Committee that she and her colleagues issued “dozens” of denials for security clearance applications that were later approved despite their concerns about blackmail, foreign influence or other red flags, according to panel documents released Monday.
Newbold, an 18-year veteran of the security clearance process who has served under both Republican and Democratic presidents, said she warned her superiors that clearances “were not always adjudicated in the best interest of national security” — and was retaliated against for doing so.
White House whistleblower says 25 security clearance denials were reversed during Trump administration
A White House whistleblower told lawmakers that more than two dozen denials for security clearances have been overturned during the Trump administration, calling Congress her “last hope” for addressing what she considers improper conduct that has left the nation’s secrets exposed.
Tricia Newbold, a longtime White House security adviser, told the House Oversight and Reform Committee that she and her colleagues issued “dozens” of denials for security clearance applications that were later approved despite their concerns about blackmail, foreign influence or other red flags, according to panel documents released Monday.
Newbold, an 18-year veteran of the security clearance process who has served under both Republican and Democratic presidents, said she warned her superiors that clearances “were not always adjudicated in the best interest of national security” — and was retaliated against for doing so.
And how many were reversed under Obama, Bush, and Clinton. There needs to be a frame of reference of how common a practice this is under previous administrations before any judgements can be made about it.
Please provide such frame of reference or take your whataboutism elsewhere
Any political biased person making accusations about the Trump administration needs to make a clear case that the number security denials being reversed is out of the norm compared to previous administrations.
If they can do this then they have a point.
(However the real point is that this is probably not any different than previous administrations.)