Bush's Policy Change Angers Palestinians

Quote from splphil:

LOOOOOL. Suddenly we hear no more "leave them to their own devices". Suddenly we're making comparisons. Fact is, Copernicus, you had no idea how much Egypt is getting. Kinda makes all your arguments fall apart, doesn't it :) ?
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disproportionaly less than israel. and they need it unlike israel
 
Quote from Copernicus:

how much is israel getting? it thought u mean them with that 2 bil.
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*Sigh*. Once again, that's not the point. The point is you didn't bother finding out how much Egypt is getting, cause it doesn't bother you they should get money. It's only when it's ISRAEL that gets money that it's a problem. The cat's out of the bag...
 
Quote from splphil:

*Sigh*. Once again, that's not the point. The point is you didn't bother finding out how much Egypt is getting, cause it doesn't bother you they should get money. It's only when it's ISRAEL that gets money that it's a problem. The cat's out of the bag...
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exactly!
have u ever been to eqypt ? is a rather poor country.
they also control the suez canal, something of strategic importance.

now what benefit do we have from supporting israel?
 
Quote from axeman:

I get really tired of this line of reasoning.
People whine about not enough time.

I guess OVER A DECADE wasnt long enough???????????????
Maybe we should have waited 50? 200?
Maybe we should have waited until he had a huge arsenal
rebuilt???


Get serious.


peace

axeman
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Maybe we should have not acted, kind of like Clinton did for 8 years, I mean, nothing that bad came out of it. Right? Here is an excerpt from an article
(http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/033104e.htm) titled "How 9/11 Happened":

.....PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT
In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.
Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."
In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.
In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.
On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
In Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.
Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.
On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.
Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991."
The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 – when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics.
In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.....
 
Quote from October:

Maybe we should have not acted, kind of like Clinton did for 8 years, I mean, nothing that bad came out of it. Right? Here is an excerpt from an article
(http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/033104e.htm) titled "How 9/11 Happened":

.....PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT
In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.
Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."
In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.
In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.
On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.
In Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.
Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.
On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.
Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991."
The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 – when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics.
In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.
Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.....
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are you saying they attacked us because we are a democracy and live in freedom?
like i mentioned before there are countless other countries that live the same way and have no problems with terrorists, isnt that true?
 
Quote from Copernicus:

are you saying they attacked us because we are a democracy and live in freedom?
like i mentioned before there are countless other countries that live the same way and have no problems with terrorists, isnt that true?
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Countless other countries?

You mean countless other countries that happen to be the number one economic and military superpower?

Gee, why did they pick us instead of New Zealand... I wonder...
 
Quote from darkhorse:

Countless other countries?

You mean countless other countries that happen to be the number one economic and military superpower?

Gee, why did they pick us instead of New Zealand... I wonder...
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whole europe, japan, canada , G10 members?
every shitty tape they air out, they spell it out why they single out the US.
 
Quote from Copernicus:

exactly!
have u ever been to eqypt ? is a rather poor country.
they also control the suez canal, something of strategic importance.

now what benefit do we have from supporting israel?
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Have you ever been to Israel? Did you know that a third of the people here live in poverty? But I guess that doesn't matter.

Israel is the only truly democratic country in the Middle East, something of strategic importance. But I guess that doesn't matter.

Egypt has terrible human rights abuses. But I guess that doesn't matter.

Of course it doesn't matter. Because as long as it's Israel we're talking about, there doesn't HAVE to be a logical reason to be against, right?
 
Quote from splphil:

Have you ever been to Israel? Did you know that a third of the people here live in poverty? But I guess that doesn't matter.

Israel is the only truly democratic country in the Middle East, something of strategic importance. But I guess that doesn't matter.

Egypt has terrible human rights abuses. But I guess that doesn't matter.

Of course it doesn't matter. Because as long as it's Israel we're talking about, there doesn't HAVE to be a logical reason to be against, right?
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listen buddy u have a problem with the Arabs, and thanks to you we do to!
 
Quote from splphil:

Have you ever been to Israel? Did you know that a third of the people here live in poverty? But I guess that doesn't matter.

Israel is the only truly democratic country in the Middle East, something of strategic importance. But I guess that doesn't matter.

Egypt has terrible human rights abuses. But I guess that doesn't matter.

Of course it doesn't matter. Because as long as it's Israel we're talking about, there doesn't HAVE to be a logical reason to be against, right?
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third of people :-), egypt must be 9/10 then
 
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