Bruce Lee Fitness and Exercise Forum

[speedo]

Started and ended my sets yesterday with a slow negative rep. Felt a nice burn and going to continue with this. I just use weight work as a component of overall conditioning program so am not interested in eeking one more centimeter out of my triceps.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Started and ended my sets yesterday with a slow negative rep. Felt a nice burn and going to continue with this. I just use weight work as a component of overall conditioning program so am not interested in eeking one more centimeter out of my triceps.

Right. You have other things to do and so you want the best bang for the buck when you're at it rather than spending (additional) time finessing it for negligible increments. That was my point.

 

[luisHK]

Okay, just one more question about this exercise. Why are you so enamored with it? It's basically a front lateral isometric. The front lateral raise is perhaps the most redundant exercise there is. You already work your anterior delts with every pushing exercise you do, be it bench press, incline press, push ups, dips, or whatever. And you work them in a more natural manner. Further, it's a single joint exercise, so you're not even getting the metabolic effect of a compound. Finally, the front lateral raise has absolutely no evolutionary relevance, so any "functional" argument is specious at best.

imo it is a completely crap routine, full of isolation exercises and grossly neglecting the lower body. Holds do exist in competitive strongman though, so might be useful there, and ina few other routines but as a complement of compound exercises

 

[El OchoCinco]

Started and ended my sets yesterday with a slow negative rep. Felt a nice burn and going to continue with this. I just use weight work as a component of overall conditioning program so am not interested in eeking one more centimeter out of my triceps.

The point is what Bruce said:

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own"

So study it and see what seems useful or works and reject what seems useless to you. Buried in this statement is why argue with others over justification of moves for others. Stop wasting space with demands for justifications to satisfy your own knowledge. Adapts what is useful, reject what is useless and add what is specifically your own.

That is exactly what Speedo did. Anyone else can do the same just as I am not following Lee's workout regiment to the exact letter. Even he said don't copy me, then you are being imprisoned by the form and structure.

 

[SunTrader]

... The fanboy stuff gets out of hand as evidenced by the arguments that arise that he could have beaten Mohammed Ali which is absurd. You don't give up 80 pounds of muscle to one of the greatest fighters and athletes who ever lived. Pound for pound however, Bruce would have been a formidable opponent for anyone.

Bruce = Ferrari
Ali = Mack truck

Ali could flatten Bruce ... if he could keep up and catch him, otherwise Bruce would be the one Floating like a Butterfly, Stinging like a Bee IMO.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Bruce = Ferrari
Ali = Mack truck

Ali could flatten Bruce ... if he could keep up and catch him, otherwise Bruce would be the one Floating like a Butterfly, Stinging like a Bee IMO.

Yeah Bruce never stated he could beat Ali. I posted quotes where he admitted would get killed, even more so if he only could use his hands. But Lee studied Ali and his movement and ability to dance on his feet. Bruce Lee's shuffle and floating around on his toes were admittedly taken from watching and studying Ali.

There are several fight scenes in Fist of Fury and Way of the Dragon where you can clearly see Ali's influence. he was light on his feet.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

full of isolation exercises and grossly neglecting the lower body.

Yeah, about half of the exercises are isolation, which is not to my taste, but I suppose better than some of what I see in the gym. Regarding absence of lower body work, I'm guessing he has a split routine ("tonight's workout").

Holds do exist in competitive strongman though, so might be useful there, and ina few other routines but as a complement of compound exercises

I still can't see that particular hold exercise being good for the shoulders. Risk/reward.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Stop wasting space with demands for justifications to satisfy your own knowledge.

Yeah, it's not as though this is a discussion board...

 

[contra]

Ali would have literally killed him with one punch. I don't even know why that was a discussion back then. He should have been contemplating whether or not he could even last with amateur boxers of the time, in his weight class.

Tarantino claims Bruce did say he could beat Ali, and that his wife definitely wrote that he could in his first biography. Maybe he changed his mind.

 

[speedo]

Ali would have literally killed him with one punch. I don't even know why that was a discussion back then. He should have been contemplating whether or not he could even last with amateur boxers of the time, in his weight class.

Tarantino claims Bruce did say he could beat Ali, and that his wife definitely wrote that he could in his first biography. Maybe he changed his mind.

He may have changed his mind after he met Ali, which he did. I'm 6'2 and in good condition and once saw him outside a restaurant in Manhattan and Ali at 6'3 looked like he belonged to a different species. He appeared massive.