Bright Desk Fees?

Quote from Don Bright:

How about just sending a bio to Baron, I don't need to know more than that to be able to feel comfortable in the discussion. You have seemed to put this into the personal category, with the pictures and t-shirts (actually kinda cute, but nevertheless) and the (mostly good humored) remarks, etc. All I ask is that I don't set myself up with some nut case...and you know what I mean by that (not saying you are, but we live in a very strange world now). Just 2 gentlemen discussing the trading business....no more, no less.

I take back the "challenge" if that is what it appeared to be to you....I thought it would be more of a fun event.

Good Luck with your trading....

Peace!!

Don
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I thought you wanted to debate me Don? (see attached snapshot from chat log)

If the debate is just for fun, what does it matter if I am a "nut case?"

Wouldn't that be fun, you debating a nut case?

My bio?

I could say "former district attorney, or I could say former drug addict, or I could say postal worker."

What does it matter as long as I am able to debate, and win?

I don't understand what you are afraid of?

How would you even know that the bio I generate is real?
 

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Not to get in the middle of this argument/discussion, but when i started trading 3+ years ago, I took a required class at the shop I was at (retail not prop) and it was 100% worthless. It was the largest waste of money I have taken part in. If Don has a good class that provides true training (money managment, mental games, scalping, and speed) than I find few faults in his recommendation to all his traders to take (and pay) it. And the firm I started at (which was not Bright) will remain nameless because I still have some ill feelings toward them, thus I am a far cry from objective when it comes to them.
777, I understand your previous points, I even agree with a few of them. HOWEVER, I would agree with Don that it would be interesting (if for no other reason than to curb our curiosity) to hear your bio and what firm you represent, if you do at all.

Either way, keep up the open debate, but always keep it civil. We are traders, not thugs.
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I do not represent a firm, or have a financial interest in these discussions with Don, but how do you know that I am telling you the truth when I say this?
 
777, I trade with a group of guys. We all trade our own accounts. I enjoy being around honest, hardworking, honorable individuals. i don't care if one is a hard hat, a trader, or a CEO. I submit that in this day and age, honesty and integrity are a rare breed. It is not my place to make statements as to who is what, but as a group of people brought together by a common interest, I do expect honesty.

Is Don biased to Bright trade, OF COURSE. If he weren't he would not be being very loyal to his traders and firm. However, he seems to me to be being reasonable and honest. Maybe I am expecting to much by expecting honesty and integrity, but I hope not.
 
I don't have a problem with Don either; he is just doing his job; however I don't think he needs to know who someone is.

Unless he is trying to figure out if he is a disgruntled ex-Bright trader ...
 
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777, I trade with a group of guys. We all trade our own accounts. I enjoy being around honest, hardworking, honorable individuals. i don't care if one is a hard hat, a trader, or a CEO. I submit that in this day and age, honesty and integrity are a rare breed. It is not my place to make statements as to who is what, but as a group of people brought together by a common interest, I do expect honesty.

Is Don biased to Bright trade, OF COURSE. If he weren't he would not be being very loyal to his traders and firm. However, he seems to me to be being reasonable and honest. Maybe I am expecting to much by expecting honesty and integrity, but I hope not.
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I think we all want honesty, from our associates, from retailers we buy from, from the clergy, from the politicians, from our spouses and relatives, from the media, etc.

However, expecting honesty is a different matter.

When money is involved, I have been trained to expect the best, but be fully prepared for the worst.

Money changes everything when you have interactions and relationships where money is involved, and when money is the primary motivating factor in someone's actions and reasons for interacting, it is not to be ignored.

The money trail speaks louder than words.
 
Metoxx, I don't believe it is unreasonable for Don to ask with whom he is debating. If 777 is an upset past bright trader he should take this time to confront the owner. nonetheless I understand you point Metoxx.
 
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Metoxx, I don't believe it is unreasonable for Don to ask with whom he is debating. If 777 is an upset past bright trader he should take this time to confront the owner. nonetheless I understand you point Metoxx.
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Just a thought; Don is a public personality, 777 is not ...
 
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Metoxx, I don't believe it is unreasonable for Don to ask with whom he is debating. If 777 is an upset past bright trader he should take this time to confront the owner. nonetheless I understand you point Metoxx.
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What difference would it make if I were a disgruntled ex-Bright trader? Would that change the truth of the issues at hand?

So what if someone has an ax to grind? Are they on targtet, are they speaking the truth, are they being reasonable and accurate? Are the questions they are asking worth answering?

Again, the focus in our society is too much on the "credibility" of the speaker, not on the truth of the speech.

This is why they hire guys like the old fart that used to be on Law and Order to appear in the TD Waterhouse ads. Marketing people know that most buyers are too stupid or lazy to do the research, and if they see a celebrity that gives the product instant credibility.

What a sham, and an abuse of the system.
 
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