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Quote from popesidious:


Following the advice provided on his website I bought "Secrets of Professional Turf Betting", which might be among the best books on trading. I highly recommend it.


That is a great book. Too bad that Vic didn't apply its principal maxim, "the form always moves away from the public." Selling vol had become a ridiculously crowded trade. All a guy had to do was look around.
 
Quote from jem:

surf - please tell me what I do not know. I have posts from years ago explaining the business model and how it is really just a scam in which you collect fees to you blow up.

You are just hoping you start taking in lots of customer money for a period of time before you blow up. You are betting that the black swan hits later rather than sooner.

By the way I asked you to explain why I am wrong when I made the same accusations in the past. Before you even mentioned matador.



you are making too many assumptions in your statements. you seem to believe there is some kind of fraud or deceit implicit in a certain trading strategy--- that truthfully, you don't even know for certain that said party has not incorporated other trading methods,tactics, strategies in the plan. you don't have any idea what risk management tactics are in place, what the expected monthly drawdown is, and especially how the year will end up.


by the way, its cool to see another elite old timer still on the boards--thanks for posting that old thread regardless of how i feel about the spirit of your post.

surfer:)
 
Quote from Fat-tail Cat:

Vic's true gift to the trading world is showing how one can benefit
from the noise through scientific methods. Since he is almost always short gamma, when there is signal or a tide, he can get hurt.

His comments are often sarcastic and tongue in cheek. You really need to read between the lines to decipher the message.

That being said, Matador is one helluva competitor. In May Matador was down 28 percent, but last year they were up 50 something percent with barely a drawdown, if memory serves me
correctly.

After blowing up once already, he is DOWN 28% in a month?

If I were down 28% in a month, I would hang it up and shut down until I figured out the fundamentals of risk management.

Reckless, arrogant, pathetic: he who produced such returns, and the saps who gave him the money in the first place.
 
Quote from trendmomentum:

Check the website, he even removed the article when the rally failed to materialize. Simply trying to tweak his record, clasical !!! Talk about survivorship bias, statistics & lies. LOL

trendmo, what's your own website's url? what kind of content do you put up, and how often is it refreshed? do you publish specific recommendations? thanks, rod.
 
Quote from Rodney King:

trendmo, what's your own website's url? what kind of content do you put up, and how often is it refreshed? do you publish specific recommendations? thanks, rod.

Good one, thanks for the laughs! I call this witty, simple sarcasm!
 
Hi Rodney,

Sorry, but I do not recommend anything. I was just refering to the dailyspeculations web site. I assumed it would be common knowledge to the people following this thread.

Ta.

Quote from Rodney King:

trendmo, what's your own website's url? what kind of content do you put up, and how often is it refreshed? do you publish specific recommendations? thanks, rod.
 
Im going to pipe in and back up Trendmo since its Rodney king's first post. If you are going to promote a website and Make a Market Call for Monday and It goes against you, then you take down that post when you are wrong, I ask anyone here, What is that? What are you trying to promote? How smart you are? Who cares how smart? Give me a break. His book is a good read, his comeback is impressive, he continues to tell us how smart he is via a website and bashing Billionaires like the Sage.
But make a call and tell us you were early or wrong. Am I one of the few who read the original post this weekend? Vic? Man Up??? If I were humbled by the market to the degree he was and publicly , I would Shut the Eff Up, not bash any Billionaire and just trade, and hone my craft...Enough....thats off my chest.

Trendmo doesnt have a site that promotes himself.
 
Quote from Rodney King:

trendmo, what's your own website's url? what kind of content do you put up, and how often is it refreshed? do you publish specific recommendations? thanks, rod.
marketslurper, is that you?
 
I probably should keep my mouth shut...but I won't.

I think we should leave VN alone...even though I think to an extent he is 'fair game", since he has made himself a public figure via his website, books, interviews etc.

However, I still think this is a tough business...a very tough business and I give kudos to any one just for even showing up to play the “game”. I don't like showing Schadenfreude period and certainly not with traders/entrepreneurs/fund managers.

So if I may suggest, let's end the VN bashing and even the VN love fest (market surfer …you listening).

There is benefit in discussing the benefits/merits/de-merits of different strategies e.g. short gamma vs. long gamma, systematic vs. discretionary, etc, but in doing so lets focus on the issues and NOT the personalities.

Let's wish everyone well and focus on how we can improve as traders and as people.

Thanks!
 
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