BOX Trading Starts Friday Morning, February 6, 2004

You are kidding. CBOE does not even deserve a comparison to NYSE. Forget CBOE. CBOE get lost.


Quote from inandlong:

Please accept my apology in advance if this question has either been answered, or is totally ridiculous.

After readng a number of the comments on other BOX threads, I cannot help but ask - on the subject of "fairness" - will BOX be to the CBOE what the Nasdaq is to the NYSE specialist system?

If that is the hope, then I'd say there will be not much if any improvement. The fills I get going thru a specialist for listed stocks are almost always better than what I get on Nas.

This is not to slight IB's contribution whatsoever. I'm just saying that the present electronic exchange system is no better than the specialist system, so I am not expecting the BOX electronic exchange to be better than the CBOE.

Actually, if anything.... I'd suggest making the minimum price move in options .01 instead of .05. That has done a nice job of narrowing spreads in equities imo.
 
No sure about that. After all IB started the fee. It may continue to do the same depending on if they can make big monkey on BOX.
Quote from Cdntrader:

I believe there will be no cancel fees on the BOX
 
Quote from NoMoreOptions:

No sure about that. After all IB started the fee. It may continue to do the same depending on if they can make big monkey on BOX.

IB did not start the cancelation fee. It was imposed by the exchanges as detriment to non member customers making markets. IB merely passes the fee on.
 
Stop embarrassing yourself, I have done the same with the journals I have started.....be carefull what you post here in this permanent archive and know what your talking about personally....

Michael B.


Quote from NoMoreOptions:

No sure about that. After all IB started the fee. It may continue to do the same depending on if they can make big monkey on BOX.
 
Well well, is this a threat or what? Why do I need to be careful about what I know is fact and think is my opinions? Search the archive and you know what had happened. This is a free country and a free world and will continue to be.


Quote from ElectricSavant:

Stop embarrassing yourself, I have done the same with the journals I have started.....be carefull what you post here in this permanent archive and know what your talking about personally....

Michael B.
 
Is ET the first brokerage firm charge this particular fee? Let IB customers, all ET members, all colleagues in the industry speak. If it is the case, what's wrong to state that IB started it?

You made a point. It's about to prevent making market. How do you define making market? Do you think this should be a privilege in a free fair market? How do you define who should have the privilege?

Let the SEC investigate this matter and speak!. I will respect the line drawn and hold my peace.

Quote from Pabst:

IB did not start the cancelation fee. It was imposed by the exchanges as detriment to non member customers making markets. IB merely passes the fee on.
 
Quote from Pabst:

IB did not start the cancelation fee. It was imposed by the exchanges as detriment to non member customers making markets. IB merely passes the fee on.
You know, I would really like to explore this.

For example, let's say I hit a bid or an offer on any option exchange. Notice that I am not trying to make a market in this case, I am trying to buy on the posted offer, or sell on the posted bid.

Now, either the price is not there anymore, or the market maker backs off. What _really_ is at best a bad rule, and at worst just downright thievery is that I get charged a cancel fee now for canceling and order that was not filled either because the posted market was not "real," or a market maker (who doesn't have cancel fees) backs off :mad:

BTW, you guys keep feeding this idiot NoMoreOptions. The guy is clearly mental. Let him talk to himself by puting him on ignore.

nitro
 
Quote from nitro:

You know, I would really like to explore this.


BTW, you guys keep feeding this idiot NoMoreOptions. The guy is clearly mental. Let him talk to himself by puting him on ignore.

nitro

Can't help myself, it's tooooooooooo funny.

Vega:D
 
Quote from nitro:

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Now, either the price is not there anymore, or the market maker backs off. What _really_ is at best a bad rule, and at worst just downright thievery is that I get charged a cancel fee now for canceling and order that was not filled either because the posted market was not "real," or a market maker (who doesn't have cancel fees) backs off :mad:

....

nitro

Well .... Even though these cancel fees are still small it is a cost. I agree completely with your statement and I generally will not participate in these markets that decide to post a fee for canceling. ..... although its not a fair comparison, just think back to the old days of the first MERC options - not the agriculturals but the financials like the S&P and the currencies. I certainly would not have paid for the priviledge of cancels in those markets ...
 
On most of the series I look at, it appears that ISE is doing pretty much all the volume and clearly dominate the B/A. How will BOX improve this? That price improvement feature seemed complicated and a pain in the neck to me. How is it better than ISE?
 
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