The kids have been turning themselves into law enforcement, so we don't need a bunch of yahoos in Wal-Mart camo out playing hero in the desert.
Border Patrol and Law Enforcement Upset At Militias At Southern Border
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Are you drunk already. They're not supposed to cross the border in the first place moron.
The heroes in the dessert are trying to stop the illegal incursion and save tax payers the expense of them being here.
You're over simplifying the issue. It's not just kids, and kids or not, you can't just show up and start making demands to be housed, clothed and fed, educated, provided healthcare, given all types of public aid and then have the nerve to bitch about it when someone is saying wait a minute, this isn't right, let alone legal.
The issue needs to be addressed and it needs to be addressed in a way that recognizes our laws. What Obama and the left are proposing does not do that. Isn't anyone going to enforce the whole, pay a fine, learn the language, etc., etc. amnesty deal they're offering. We don't enforce anything now. Who will enforce this?
I'm all for streamlining the current process. Make it more expedient. Open up more checkout lines at the grocery store if you will. What you don't get to do is say, hey, the line is too long, I'm just taking my grocery cart home and someone else can pick up the tab. That ain't gettin' it.
And they are turning themselves in to get (1) free food (2) free housing (3) free education (4) get a free attorney ... and the list continues. And guess what? All of these things cost us $$$$$$$$$$ .... more taxpayer dollars spent on people who have consciously chosen to break the law.
I agree to take the newly arriving mexicans in at a rate of 100 000 a year...
If the federal and state governments eliminate income and death taxes permanently...
and give us one extra conservative vote for every mexican granted amnesty.
you can't be stifling the crap out of the economy and sucking every last dollar out of the working class until death... to give a way benefits to non citizens...
you have to let a booming economy create jobs.
Sure there will be likely more inflation... but at least then it is shared equally and our economy will be far more robust and create jobs.
If the federal and state governments eliminate income and death taxes permanently...
and give us one extra conservative vote for every mexican granted amnesty.
you can't be stifling the crap out of the economy and sucking every last dollar out of the working class until death... to give a way benefits to non citizens...
you have to let a booming economy create jobs.
Sure there will be likely more inflation... but at least then it is shared equally and our economy will be far more robust and create jobs.
Will you be volunteering? If not, where will you find these 100,000 guards who are willing to work for free in perpetuity? Or will they be paid? And if so, how does that fit in to the small government thing?
He doesn't care. He's in Canada.
I don't care about his assertions because, even though true, they are irrelevant to the point I was making.
Anyway, when it was time to blame Obama for this most recent flood from Central America, much weight was put on the fact that the kids were turning themselves in, as proof that it was Obama's message that caused them to come here. But now that it's time to defend a bunch of wannabes "fightin' for 'merica", the fact the kids already turn themselves in is suddenly irrelevant.
Sheriff Gary Painter (Credit: Fox News)Beheadings aren’t enough, apparently. Right-wing promoters of eternal war have a new way to scare Americans into fighting ISIS: insisting the Islamic terrorists are sneaking into the “homeland” via the dangerous southern border that a feckless President Obama refuses to secure.
This fixation has migrated from the fringe of the fringe over on Breitbart.com, which shamed itself in July with headlines announcing that border officials had found a “Muslim prayer rug” at the Arizona border that turned out to be an Adidas soccer jersey. In August, Breitbart protégé James O’Keefe, the goofball behind the ACORN sting and other dumb stunts to entrap evil liberals, snuck across the border in a ludicrous Osama bin Laden costume, to “prove” America’s worst enemy could penetrate our weak southern flank, even though he’s dead.
If you heard about O’Keefe’s stunt, you probably chuckled darkly (especially if you saw photos). You chuckled, that is, unless you’re Sen. John McCain. If you’re Sen. John McCain, you used O’Keefe’s stunt to browbeat a top Homeland Security official, Francis Taylor, at last week’s Senate hearing about the ISIS threat.
When Taylor insisted officials “have the intelligence and the capability at our border” to block terrorists from crossing, McCain shot back: “Well, you know it’s interesting because a American reporter named James O’Keefe dressed as Osama bin Laden walked across the border at the Rio Grande river undetected. Does something like that concern you?” Taylor said O’Keefe was not “undetected,” and that border officials saw him and his crew, but McCain wasn’t satisfied.
Now it’s a full-blown panic. The Drudge Report’s top headline hypes “ISIS at the border?” even though the New York Times story it links to explains how the U.S. is working hard to debunk this conspiracy, though it can’t work faster than Fox News is hyping it.
Fox and Friends hosted Midland County Sheriff Gary Painter Monday morning, who claimed he’d found “Muslim clothing” and “Koran books” on his side of the border. Painter continued: “So we know that there are Muslims that have come across and are being smuggled into the United States. If they show their ugly head in their area, we’ll send them to hell. I would like for ‘em to hit ‘em so hard and so often that every time they hear a propeller on a plane or a jet aircraft engine that they urinate down both legs. When you do that, then you’ve accomplished a lot.”
The wingnuts at Judicial Watch are claiming ISIS is already in El Paso and that Fort Bliss is in danger. For weeks they’ve been warning that “chatter” has led government officials to secretly warn of “an imminent terrorist attack on the border.” No matter how much government officials deny there’s any evidence of such a plot, let alone any internal warnings, Judicial Watch keeps peddling the stories.
“President Obama or his administration should acknowledge this dire threat on the border, whatever its political ramifications are for the debate on immigration,” Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told the Times. But the White House ignores the threat, he says, because it “goes against the narrative that the border is secure” and we “don’t need to worry about illegal immigration.”
Fitton helps explain why the story is such Fox-bait: It’s a two-fer, letting the network channel its aging white audience’s fear of dirty, drug-running, gang-banging, Ebola-carrying future Democratic voters from Mexico and Latin America into a fear of ISIS, and whip them into a war frenzy. It’s no stretch to believe that the president they hate is working to help his two favorite constituencies – Muslim terrorists and illegal immigrants – by leaving the border open.
But the Times caught Fox trying to have it both ways. Roger Ailes’ empire gave last week’s Senate hearing completely contradictory coverage: Over on Fox News Latino, the headline read: “ISIS Terrorists Not Sneaking Over U.S. Southern Border With Mexico, D.H.S. Officials Tell Congress.” Calm Fox-watching Latinos, apparently, were able to handle the truth. But on FoxNews.com, the same hearing was framed for maximum freakout among the network’s elderly white viewers: “D.H.S. Confirms ISIS Planning Infiltration of U.S. Southern Border.”
In response to similar headlines on right-wing sites like Washington Free Beacon, which also twisted Taylor’s testimony, the Department of Homeland Security issued a statementdeclaring, “There is no credible intelligence to suggest that there is an active plot by ISIL to attempt to cross the southern border.” But that hasn’t stopped the right from fomenting its “ISIS on the border” panic. Look for Sheriff Gary Painter to become a Sean Hannity regular sometime soon.
Joan Walsh