Bitcoin "Freefall"

You seen the film Wolf of Wallstreet?
  • Mark Hanna : You know what a fugazi is?
  • Jordan Belfort : Fugayzi, it's a fake.
  • Mark Hanna : Fugayzi, fugazi. It's a whazy. It's a woozie. It's fairy dust. It doesn't exist. It's never landed. It is no matter. It's not on the elemental chart. It's not fucking real.

Gold is actually on the elemental chart!, its fucking real while Bitcoin: It's fairy dust. It doesn't exist. It's never landed. It is no matter. It's not on the elemental chart. It's not fucking real. :D

I thought the fugazi talk came from Donnie Brasco. *shrugs* Guess I gotta' watch WoWS again.

 
This is only what I expect to happen based on the PAST. Not on what I hope or wish. I believe in crypto, but I also believe that modern crypto is very primitive and not yet useful in civilized society.

I disagree with your view on the current state of the cryptos ecosystem and that it needs resetting

The way I see it, everything is working very well with cryptos financial system and there is no need for a "reset" that you mentioned

Cryptos ecosystem is worth over $2 Trillion currently and growing at an enormous pace

Bitcoin is the reserve asset which is the gateway to the "civilized society" you speak of, but what I would term as cashing out in the real world when it's needed i.e. buying a lambo

Bitcoin liquidity 24/7/365 is very good

Did you know bitcoin is going to be integrated in banks worldwide? Yes, that is correct, the biggest bank in Australia, biggest banks in Germany and over a thousand banks and credit unions in the US


Ethereum, Solana and other L1 blockchain that provide smart contract platforms for building decentralized crypto banks, decentralized crypto exchanges, decentralized capital raises are to replace the traditional financial companies but only for use in the cryptos world

USDT, USDC, MIM, DAI and other stablecoins are providing a stable currency. This has become akin to a money market but also fascinating that it's being used in places where they want the US $ but is difficult to get a hold of

I see a lot of crypto people on Twitter talking about not cashing out to fiat when we go to a bear market and in fact many went to stablecoins during the major correction we had 6 months ago when btc went below $30K
 
I read above posts and assume the average age of opponents is higher then proponents of bitcoin and it is not to offend anyone. It is a generational bias that is speaking imo.

Older generation are conservative and stick to their investing habits while younger generation explore and take risks and rewards of investment in the unknown.

There is indeed a generational bias. Older people have in general more life experience, so more wisdom. I daytrade over 25 years, my son was trading crypto's for 2 years. It is clear who has more experience, although my son has a university degree and I have not.

Parents educate their children in thousands of different things and thanks to that these children make less errors, or bad decisions while growing up. So, in general, it is better to listen to the parents than to the childrens opinion. When I was young I also thought I was smarter than my parents. I know now it is mostly not true. The moment that you will realize that too, will one day come (hopefully).

There is also: "I missed the train, so it better crash" common narrative which simply is regret.

I said many times on ET that I make more money daytrading the ES than I would have made with BTC. So I never missed the train, I caught the right one.

98% of all addresses are smaller than 1 BTC which shows that "BTC can make you rich" is not valid for these 98% of all addresses. These 98% should have much more than” less than 1 BTC” by now. These people missed the boat too, or rather were sitting on the wrong boat. I don't even speak about all the people that lost money, or all they had, on crypto's.
My son who is 25 years younger than me, quit trading crypto's after two years. He says now it was a very good decision. He is daytrading the ES, for which I gave him the knowledge.

If you analyze the addresses carefully you will see that only after the 2017 high, people started to join as from that moment on the number of addresses went up. So the majority of crypto trader/holders, started after the high in december 2017. From that high at around $20,000 we went to $47,600 today. So 2.38 times higher in 4 years. Up 138% in 4 years is just 34.5% a year. Not that spectacular.

I would argue that regret fuels the last stages of bubbles in general as those who decide at last to enter rather then remain bears, become often bagholders.

The bagholders are the millions of 98% of small adresses from people who have no money and no experience or real knowledge about the financial markets, but dream to get rich starting from nickels and dimes. It is also the herd behavior. It is cool to have crypto's, just like it was, 30 years ago, cool to smoke when you were 15 years old, feeling you were a real man already. Like the Marlboro cowboy, who finally died from long cancer. Which proofs, after many years, that he took the wrong decision to become "a real man".
 
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The only problem with hodling is you can never be certain of whether the trend will repeat itself or not. Everyday new things are happening in the crypto world. Some countries are making it legal, some are banning it while some are regulating it. There’s no guarantee that waiting will be rewarding.
 
The only problem with hodling is you can never be certain of whether the trend will repeat itself or not.

You mean the cycle of "85% crash followed by 2000% moon" is not guaranteed? Damn, I was counting on that for my retirement. :D
 
Instead of looking at similarities between crypto and gold maybe we should look at the differences;
Gold is real. I can see it, hold it, drop it on my foot. It's a thing.
Crypto is a digital asset. It's in a computer somewhere but I can't tell you where exactly.

I can use gold for other things. It's shiny and can be used as decoration, it has some weight and could be used to hold things down or as a door stop. I can put a value on it because I know the amount of time required to pan an ounce. I also believe it is widely used in electronics and the aerospace industry. I'm not sure there is another use for crypto.
Can you see money on your credit/debit card?

If you have greenbacks in your wallet you can.

Same thing. One is visible, one is virtual.
 
The only problem with hodling is you can never be certain of whether the trend will repeat itself or not. Everyday new things are happening in the crypto world. Some countries are making it legal, some are banning it while some are regulating it. There’s no guarantee that waiting will be rewarding.


Indeed, most will hodl just one time to much.
Like crossing a street when the traffic lights are red. it will good till it one time will go bad. End of game.

We are now in a downtrend, but every crash starts with a downtrend. The only problem is that when it is clear that it is going to crash most people will wait till it recovers a bit. These are the people who will wipe out.

It is called the boiled frog behavior.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=boiled+frog&t=newext&atb=v1-1&ia=web

frog.jpg
 
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We are now in a downtrend, but every crash starts with a downtrend. The only problem is that when it is clear that it is going to crash most people will wait till it recovers a bit. These are the people who will wipe out.
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Really? Every crash starts with a downtrend? Well duh have you ever seen a crash start with an uptrend. I've never seen a crash (stock market kind anyway) going uphill.
 
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