Belief in God and Market Perspective

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Quote from stu:

Oxford English Dictionary (OED)
atheism
Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a god.
....Not to believe or credit;My emphases is I suggest, why you don't really debate at all. Excused definitions, which accomodate the word atheist as simply no belief without connotation , are blind spotted so to avoid the obvious, which doesn't sit with a particular narrowed down view.
Like adding to a constantly losing trade

Tell me jem, do you also think the definition of apolitical is someone who believes in the non existence of politics?

Stu now you may very well be misusing the dictionary.

The definitions I have you put the words into context. Now you are trying to use alternative meanings for dis believe.

The dictionary you used ranks meanings and their use in society.

The definitions you put forth are not or at least not necessarily the one the dictionary itself was using. You would bear the burden of proving that is how its used.


If you use disbelieve in the defintion of another word. You would be a pretty poor academic to want its use to be used in multiple manners rendering the definition of atheist to be so polluted it is useless.

Your argument is either showing the dictionary to be illogical or your argument is very weak at best.
 
Quote from ljmlmvlhk:


In life, is there just one truth ?
Assuming that you say yes, are there people on this earth who know the truth ?
If so, who are they, where are they ?

If not, then what hope has any of us of knowing the truth ?

If in all the religions who dedicate so much energy in seeking the truth and have gone astray, where does that lead us to ?

It takes years to click onto trading, before it sinks in, is this the same for truth ?

I am, what reason are we on this earth for ?

The teachers of God are here, there, and everywhere. As a rule of thumb, so that you can tell the difference, the ToG's teach universal innocence as truth, while the GoG's teach that guilt is the truth. One direction leads to heaven, the other leads further into/around hell.

As a rule of thumb, you connect with the ToG's through the desire to do so as honesty informs you that you are weary of wayward ways. Then the Master Teacher will hook you up with the ToG or ToG's that would best serve you out of your current thought-stream. You never know who that might be, or how long that might last. A teacher-student relationship may not last long. A teacher-teacher relationship might last longer, since the goal of teaching is equality. The Master Teacher makes all teachers equal to himself, teaching them as equals. Intermediary teachers are temporary as you learn to communicate directly with the MT for the final leg of the journey home. The MT has guaranteed that all will know the truth, given time....and go home. How soon you are presented with the unadulterated truth depends on your will to have it. Thereafter, the truth is for saving you time, till eternity is all you know, being all there is.

There *was* a reason, though not very reasonable, which is now defunct. It was to answer a silly question: "What am I?" in negative terms, as if the Son of God did not know who he was. So, the world is what you are not. This is the same as to explore, out of curiosity, the idea "what if everything was different?". Stepping into the unknown, learning one's way away from reality, mind was used unnaturally to manifest time, space and form. You could say it was for experience. However, there was no need for the experience since reality knows all, and does not learn or need to learn. All is vanity under the sun. So this was "for the hell of it" so-to-speak. It is an anomaly, and not a normal function of Creation.

The *new* reason is to learn to leave, leaving a trail of light behind as you go for others to follow. There is an exodus script written specifically for you, that only you can fullfill. Fulfilling it, and as each fulfills his own, this tangled web we have weaved will be untangled, and all will be set free.

Jesus
 
I do believe in GOD.

No.1 market movement is out of my control, so I try my best to obey or follow it, I know it is fruitless to fight with the market and very disastrous to my financial health
No.2 the most profitable trade hidden at the most fearful time, so I sell HYPE and buy PANIC, in HYPE everyone reasons the sky never falls, in panic everyone thinks it is chapter 11, so I pray, GOD gave me peace
No.3 learn to give up, since God is mighty and capable of everything, I am small and limited in ability, so I only do what I am able to handle

BIBLE is a great book for nuturing a great trader
 
Quote from jem:

Stu now you may very well be misusing the dictionary.

The definitions I have you put the words into context. Now you are trying to use alternative meanings for dis believe.

The dictionary you used ranks meanings and their use in society.

The definitions you put forth are not or at least not necessarily the one the dictionary itself was using. You would bear the burden of proving that is how its used.


If you use disbelieve in the defintion of another word. You would be a pretty poor academic to want its use to be used in multiple manners rendering the definition of atheist to be so polluted it is useless.

Your argument is either showing the dictionary to be illogical or your argument is very weak at best.
A theist is one who has belief in God or Gods. The word theist is then further defined and desribed.
An atheist is one who has no belief in God or Gods. The word atheist too is then further described and defined.

What is the problem with that?

But you didn't respond to my question anyway.
Do you think the word apolitical is defined as someone who believes in the non existence of politics.. no?
Then what is it in the word form of atheist that would make it so hard to see exactly the same form applies in apolitical ?

It is perfectly reasonable and understandable to define an apolitical person as one who doesn't do politics. They are unpolitical.
So what makes it so unreasonable to describe an atheist person as one who doesn't do theism. They are "untheistic".

Athest is to theist as apolitical is to politics. What don't you get?
A dictionary doesn't ALLOW it?? Or religion doesn't? Reasonable definition is not ALLOWED?
 
Quote from SWhiting:

If everything that occurs is "God's will" then there really isn't much point for us to be here. Examples from the Bible are pointless because the writers have the same wants, needs, and delusions as we do today.

I will also point out that, if there were a heaven or life after death, then it is NOT mercy to heal a sick & dying person. Why would you want to prolong a "miserable" life on earth, as a mortal, when you could be in glorious heaven.


Well, since you're reading this it must be God's will.
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Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams,
with ten thousand rivers of oil?
Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,
the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?

He has showed you, O man, what is good.
And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly with your God.


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=40&chapter=6&version=31&context=chapter
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A Christian is required by God to be on the Earth as long
as God wants. The reason would be to serve God as He
requires. This may require the individual to show mercy
to others.

Also, it is important to know that God utilizes people at times.
He performs His will through them.

-Stephen
 
Quote from stephenszpak:

Also, it is important to know that God utilizes people at times.
He performs His will through them.

-Stephen
No it isn't and No He doesn't.

-stu
 
Quote from stephenszpak:


Also, it is important to know that God utilizes people at times.
He performs His will through them.

-Stephen [/B]
you mean like hitler?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/mccain-backer-hagee-said_n_102892.html
John Hagee, the controversial evangelical leader and endorser of Sen. John McCain, argued in a late 1990s sermon that the Nazis had operated on God's behalf to chase the Jews from Europe and shepherd them to Palestine.
 
If there is a God in whichever way you choose to believe surely such an entity cannot be either proven or disproven using mathematics, science or human emotion, and as such can not be examined or compared in the same context with something like trading which can be interpreted using any or all three of these disciplines.

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